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Old 06-25-2020, 06:25 PM   #189
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Got Stripers View Post
The citizens of the USA I’m pretty sure aren’t watching us, but there are a lot watching the president for signals, leadership, direction and encouragement, bad humor in a time like this is so inappropriate and frankly insulting. Get the funds congress approved out, put on a mask where it’s difficult to physically distance to set the example, stop being such a self involved child so worried about ratings and election impact. He isn’t a leader, defend him if you like, I like many I know are voting his sorry butt out come November. The irony is I’ve voted republican more than democrat over my voting life. This clown will do so much damage if given another four years. Time to fit him for the orange jump suit.
I don't know how many are linking in to this site who are not members. You might be surprised if an actual number were somehow discovered. I found it by linking to a subject which was also being discussed here. The search engines are fairly rigorous, if not totally thorough, about finding sources on most subjects. So there may be a lot more reading these posts than you think. After a while, it occurred to me that if I found this site through my search engine, my forum name might also be found there. So I checked--dang if it wasn't there. Yup, It was there with a link to this site. I just checked again and it was gone. So it only lasts for a limited time.

But, like the virus, political opinions spread from initial sources, whatever they may be, throughout the total population over time. Most of our opinions are just personal rehash of what we heard or read or saw or learned about from another source, usually some media, or personal contact. Your negative views of Trump, I'm confidently guessing, aren't based on personal contact or association over time with him. But probably from media sources or someone relating something to you that he got from some media source. I have read your and Pete's and Spences opinions, many linking to some article or source as evidence to bolster as well as inform, their perspective. But I have read very convincing sources that dispute theirs and paint a different Picture.

The problem with media, as you well know, is its bias. One source may portray a report differently, than another. And I have found that not only the slant in what is said may differ, but actual information may be included in one source that isn't in another. Bias by omission is as effective as misinformation.

So I am agnostic about what is the truth. But, in the current state of politics, the personal characteristics of a politician are far less important to me than are their politics.

So, maybe we're being hoodwinked, for whatever reason--political, philosophical, power, or greed--into an incomplete or bogus view. It was so stark in difference between how CNN, MSNBC, NBC, CBS and ABC delivered their news and editorials and talk programs on the ongoing Mueller investigation as well as the impeachment process, in contrast to Fox and various right wingish internet shows. And which news agencies leaned more accurately toward the final results.


As far as doling out funds, maybe it's being done as needed rather than all at once. I don't know, but I believe that if it could be proved that the funding was being mishandled by the administration, it would be politically damaging to it, so I would expect that intentionally improper withholding would be avoided.

I don't "defend" Trump per se. I would rather that he kept about his business, as he does, with much less bravado, and more humility. Just do it and let the results speak for themselves. But I understand why he does it.

My favorite President was Calvin Coolidge who has been referred to as "the quiet President."
But though he lacked a lot of speechifying and politicking, he was one of the few Presidents who reduced the debt and stuck far more to Constitutional constraints than other 20th and 21rst century Presidents.

What I am trying to "defend" is not Trump, but our constitutional form of government. The actual historical record shows that Progressivism is anti-constitutional as has been documented by some of us on his forum. It is absolutely authoritarian in its political philosophy. The historical connection of Democrat Progressivism to Soviet and current Communism has been shown by some of us on this forum. There are avowed socialists in the current Democrat party that seem to have more influence than some of the decades serving Democrat leaders.

I want Trump to win not because I like him or wish to defend him. I don't. But I don't want a Progressive or Socialist for whom the Constitution is an obstacle rather than a blueprint. And that dichotomy is greater now than it has ever been. If the Democrats seize control of all levers of our government, they will surely, without a doubt, proudly return to their historical open desire to transform this nation into the non-constitutional administrative state which, in essence, will have an increasingly total control of every aspect of our lives.
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