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Old 06-04-2015, 10:14 PM   #53
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Nebe View Post
So what you are saying is "#^&#^&#^&#^& the poor". Got it.
Glad to see your Christian values are intact.
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Wow! I thought you were opposed to people needing some little book telling them how to live? What were your two simple rules . . . be cool and don't be a jerk? Or something like that? What, so now you're chastising Jim for not keeping his Christian values intact? From what you've said about Christians, besides implying they're weak minded for needing the little book, I would have assumed that breaking loose from Christian values would be applauded by you. I guess it's convenient to throw Christian values at someone if it somehow validates your argument.

But, you can be forgiven (one of those weak-minded rules from the little book) for misapplying or not understanding Christian values. Christian values and responsibilities regarding the poor have nothing to do with government aid to them. Quite the contrary, if a Christian transfers his personal responsibility to be charitable from himself to the government, he places government not only above himself, but above God. Jesus' commandment to love one another and to give compassion and material sustenance to the needy was a commandment to your personal soul and was ultimately a gift to God even more than a gift to the poor. Nowhere did Jesus require that civil, secular government do anything for the poor, nor anything else. Nor did he say that petitioning government aid, or creating a government safety net for the poor would get you points in the eyes of God.

Liberation theology, on the other hand, in my opinion, is a step closer to the religion of socialism and a step away from fundamental Christianity. The Current Pope, at times, steps in that direction. Maybe Bernie Sanders, as President, could persuade the Pope to kneel before the State as a co-God with the God of Christianity and make Christianity more acceptable to you.

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