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Old 01-28-2020, 04:45 PM   #13
Jim in CT
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
As usual, you only remember the party line.

Only one President has ever implemented a zero tolerance policy, and he is still doing it.

President Donald Trump signed an executive order last June ostensibly ending zero tolerance and family separations at the border and promising to reunite almost 3,000 children with their parents. Yet relying largely on a technical exception, at least 700 more families have been separated since then, and at least five children have died.

In many cases, the separations since then have continued under the guise of fitting into a narrow exception to the order — that the parent poses a danger to the child, or has a serious criminal record or gang affiliation. (The exception can also be invoked if the parent is sick, or when an aunt, uncle or sibling is accompanying the child.)

“The government is trying to drive a truck through what was supposed to be a very narrow exception,” notes Lee Gelernt of the American Civil Liberties Union, who believes that the number of separated families will be more than 1,000 by the end of this summer.

Advocates, however, argue that many children are being separated from their parents for minor crimes or questionable, unverified accusations of gang affiliation, neither of which would be allowed to occur to American parents under U.S. law. And so despite the end of the zero tolerance policy, children have continued to be separated from parents only charged with the so-called crime of entering the country illegally, according to the government’s own data released to the Houston Chronicle.
No no no, you said kids in cages was bad.

Now, you're saying that putting a certain number of kids in cages is OK, but once you exceed that number in cages, it's immoral. And by a stunning coincidence, the number that Obama put in cages, was below the threshold for what's acceptable to you.

Pete, we get it.

liberal=good
conservative=bad

We get it, OK?

It's a joke. Talking to you and Wayne and Spence, is an absolute joke.

Obama's former director of ICE, who has become a conservative hero lately, testified before Congress that the law essentially forces ICE to do what they're doing. THis man testified that he also agrees we need changes, but Congress needs to change the law, rather than asking ICE not to follow the law. When he testified to this, NONE of the democrats on the committee said he was wrong. I have no idea if he's right or wrong, but I haven't heard anyone on the left say he's wrong.

But let's be honest. Trump did not begin the policy of separating kids from families and outing them in cages. Obama did. AND NOBODY GAVE A DAMN. And NOBODY buys your argument that it's OK to put as many kids in cages as Obama did, but wrong when you do it as often as Trump did it. If it's wrong for any one child, it's wrong for all.

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