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Originally Posted by spence
This is pretty empty rhetoric. Nobody believes all Muslims can integrate into our system of government, though I'd note that of the hundreds of thousands that have only a handful have engaged in religiously motivated criminal behavior.
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The issue, simplified, is that their are immigrants (legal, illegal, radical, not radical) coming here and committing crime or worse injury and death. That is the issue. The vast, vast majority of immigrants come here and want to grow into the fabric of our land.
Now, our options are to keep them and have them assimilate into productive, lawful members of
our society, not allow them to come, or to suffer an increase of reprisals against citizens here in his country.
I would have like to see them assimilate into productive, lawful members of
our society. I do not realistically see how that will be done without a lot of death and turmoil. Hope is not a plan.
"Give me your poor tired huddled masses yearning to be free", not take advantage of our charity and protection, and maybe wage jihad.
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Originally Posted by spence
Really at the heart of this issue is if the issue is about Islam or politics. I'd say more often than not it's about power and religion is used as a tool to consolidate it.
Also, what is it that the regions producing Islamic extremists have in common? Hmmm, let me think...
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No, the heart of the issue is that we are a generally open and generally peaceful society, that (used to) want people to excel and do better than our ancestors. An improving, if imperfect, civilization. There are some that want to just kill in the name of their god.
What do they have in common? They are not in South America? or Japan?