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Old 11-07-2016, 11:02 AM   #10
detbuch
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Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
Couple thoughts:

The past decade has seen Russia playing havoc on elections all over the world. Both in favor of one group as well as to sow general discord among the citizens. They have done this all over Europe and are now doing it the USA.

So, yes, Putin is trying to influence our election and he is succeeding. And he is (for once) backing the Republican side. Rather than the usual focus of just the Democratic side (yes Dems and Socialists - don't get too high on your horse as you have been the KGB/SVR bitches for decades).

This Is What They Do.

For a country of Kleptocrats Russia is backwards, a GDP of Mexico with 10k nukes. A country surrounded by Cease-Fires. They cannot fix themselves, they have a declining population, significant alcoholism and drug use (HIV is fairly rampant in RUS), and a reducing average age of death. They only benefit when others do not do well and they were really looking bad in comparison to the countries surrounding them.

When Putin controls Ed Snowden (even Congressional Dems and Reps agree Eddy is a SVR tool) and Wikileaks and uses them to spin his tales and disrupt the western intelligence and electoral systems - who benefits?

Cui Bono

So Eat Drink and Be Merry in the fest 'ole Vlad has prepared for us as Tomorrow We Die.
Unless Putin has infiltrated our government agencies, State Dept., and high level advisers, as the Soviets did from the 1930's through the Truman administration, it would be difficult to impossible for him to influence our policies as the Commies did back then.

It is only from within that we can be truly threatened. If the WikiLeaks are not doctored, how can the truth threaten us? It is difficult enough without clandestine revelations to get at the truth. How do we make important political decisions if we can only look through the glass darkly?

Election discussions have been focused on the supposed character of the candidates. There has been little, if any, discussion of how the election will affect fundamental principles of how we are governed which is the very nature and purpose for which elections were instituted. Elections have become what the Founders feared. They have become the vehicle with which various groups can feed at the public trough or gain advantage for one group over another. They have become an aid to the growth of government not only in scope and power, but as the director of how we live, what is culturally correct, and the creator of what rights we have . . . or don't have.

If we "die" tomorrow, it will be because we become something other than what we once were. If we "die" tomorrow, it will be a death of liberty, and the birth of unlimited government. Putin can't make that happen. Only we, the people, can.

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