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Old 11-24-2021, 08:38 AM   #133
Jim in CT
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
Cash bail is one of the bigger drivers of recividism, Sam gets arrested for a petty theft committed because he’s broke or nearly so. Can’t post bail, loses his job.
When he gets out he’s broke, homeless and jobless.
Wonder what his choices are?

Police get called for a welfare check, autistic person they are checking on freaks, untrained cops freak, someone ends up dead.
Defunding was an unfortunate choice of words, changing the role of police is supported by police.

For profit prisons have zero incentive to reduce recidivism, who’s going to reduce their customer base. We imprison far more people than other developed countries, is that because Americans are more likely to commit crimes?

But be very afraid, because someone has found an extreme example and presented it as the norm.
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i don’t disagree that there’s a downside to cash bail, and that the downside effects poor people.

but there are other scenarios in addition to poor Sam there.

this guy in Wisconsin didn’t get $1,000 bail for petty theft. First, he ran over a woman with his truck. Second, he had an active warrant for him in Nevada for skipping bail
there in a sex crime.

that’s what angers americans. obviously setting bail isn’t an exact science, and obviously no one has a crystal ball.

but you’d have to be an idiot to give $1,000 bail
to this guy, in that situation. the optics could not be worse for democrats. the milwaukee states attorney is an avowed progressive, who is on record saying that people
he lets go will at some point kill someone else, but that doesn’t devalue the idea of leniency. boy oh boy was he right about that.

naturally you posted one scenario about a non violent guy. just stealing diapers and baby formula. Sam probably left an apology note too.

that scenario needs to be discussed pete, but so does the other extreme.

this is just the latest in a string of complete disasters for this ad
inistration, one after the other after the other after the other. a never ending conga line of embarrassment.

biden saying the rittenhouse jury spoke and that’s that. than an hour later he switches gears and says he’s angry. a president can’t do that. he is oo weak to not to it.
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