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Originally Posted by Slipknot
You can joke about the stupid laws these idiots want passed, but in Washington state the first victim of a so called "red flag" bill has lost his constitutional rights because some snowflake was scared of him. No charges, no crime, nothing, yet he lost his guns with no due process, no chance to defend himself.
"We're from the government and we are here to help"
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There are some people that should not have access to a firearm and they needs to be some mechanism in place to remove firearms when someone is extremely dangerous with a potential to user them HOWEVER there also needs to hard and predefined limits to how this can be used and for rights to be restored. Due process must be adhered to.
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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND
That’s exactly what Don-in-chief said he wanted, isn’t it?
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He talks out of both sides of his mouth like many children
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Originally Posted by wdmso
But many people have no issues with cops shooting and killing unarmed people
Many conservatives try to blame the person shot .. they shouldn't of moved fast , or the cops defense he thought they had a gun or they were in fear for their lives ... where is the due process in that
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Huh? Most cops shooting people are doing so as a result of a dangerous / illegal activity in process. Most times it is justified, unfortunate, but justified. Very few cases are determined that the LEO was at fault thought it does happen too much.
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Originally Posted by wdmso
Apply the reasons police can shoot you . to red flag bill securing your weapons because your a possible threat or fear for others lives .. Conservatives should support the bill
but because it involves guns .. they worry about due process
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Huh? Your explanations for most things aligns with this newer several decade trend of lack of logic which is why I am no longer a Dem.
You would think that important items such as rights and liberty would be more universal and held in better regard across all political spectrum - and that the difference would be how to address the faults in the system to make it better so that it applies fair opportunity to all. But no - the left is trying to bring down the system. Maybe everyone on the left does not realize it but the useful idiots will follow along.
I believe your right to speak shall not be infringed.
I believe your right to protect yourself and your family shall not be infringed.
I believe your right to prevent improper search and seizure shall not be infringed.
I believe your right to speedy and fair trial speak shall not be infringed.
I believe your right to speak shall not be infringed.
Where are the problems with these items??
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Originally Posted by scottw
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I know