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didn't see the beak on the bird I thought might be the grosbeak, it was mainly black, with white on all but the outline of the underbelly of the tail feathers which the outline was black. Sounds confusing even to me. The tail feathers were white with a black border. A call I've never heard, and flew almost like a flicker.
one thing that stands out when I see a Towhee are the red eyes
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