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Old 11-04-2010, 11:57 AM   #23
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
That's a good point, there are some people for whom the economy is not their #1 priority, and they might vote Democrat because they are more concerned about slaughtering 4,000 unborn babies a day, or giving civilian trials to captured terrorists, or using tax dollars to fund pornography.

But the exit polling showed that the economy was most people's #1 priority. I still haven't seen one person respond to my original question. I'm genuinely trying to understand why someone concerned about the economy, could vote Democrat. It makes zero sense to me, and I can usually understand what others are thinking.
You are trapped in a "capitalist" view of economy. An economy that is ultiately driven by individual motivation to gather wealth (what is called greed by some).

Those who view economy as a system of producing goods and services directly by and for the use of collective society rather than by individuals for profit and to indivuals by need and desire are not so concerned about capital (e.g. money), nor what ultimately happens to a system built on capital (except to abolish it). Such a collectivist economic system is based on the labor of all for the common "good"--generally the good is that which is needed to survive--somewhat modeled after basically perfect systems such as bee hives and ant hills. Monetary considerations and selfish motives are not necessary, rather, in fact, are detrimental to such economies.

Humans are, as Spence has observed, flawed. We seem to have an inherent need to be separate from, as well as a part of, the group--a sort of Adam and Eve complex. The founders grappled with this human condition and produced a society of individuals wherein the common good is blended with and driven by individual freedom from oppression by the group. And that society best expresses and maintains itself by individuals being motivated to survive and thrive within the constitutional framework that best preserves the life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness of all. This has best flourished in a "capitalist" economic system.

A flaw manifested by the current Democrat Party is thinking that, somehow, we can maintain that individualist streak yet still drift into a society based not on individual motivation, but, rather, on group idealism--that, morally, the individual is responsible, first, not to himself, but to the well being of all. If "money" is a problem for such a group economy, then solve the problem with fictional theories such as Keynsian economics. Mix economies. If the first, or second, or third infusion of monopoly money doesn't work, spend more . . . eventually all will be well. And if, eventually, it doesn't work, not to fret, it will be proven that monetary, or capitalist, "systems" don't work, and we can then, in earnest, start to collectively produce goods and services for each other without the need for profits and individual greed.
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