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Old 09-11-2019, 12:02 PM   #69
detbuch
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
And what she said is over the top, but Trump did say “I don’t want to kill 10 million people,” he said. “I have plans on Afghanistan that if I wanted to win that war, Afghanistan would be wiped off the face of the earth, it would be gone, it would be over in literally 10 days.” He threatened to commit genocide, just joking I guess.

Key words: "I don't want to kill 10 million people"--is that an unprovoked threat, or is it the possible outcome of an unnecessary war, or simply a bluff? You like to point out that Trump is not capable of planning ahead. Be a little consistent here. According to you, he is not able to make a plan. According to you, he is something like a psychotic liar. Surely, you must believe that here, when he says that he has a plan, he is telling a lie.

If by "genocide" you mean Webster's definition "the deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group," then can we say that the destruction and elimination of the Nazis in WWII was genocide? There is a connotation in the concept of genocide as well as a denotation. Killing in defensive war is about ending the war and using whatever means necessary. It is about eliminating an enemy that wants to eliminate you. "Genocide" connotes something beyond mere war. It implies some kind of extreme hatred for a group which rises to the point of eliminating them simply because of who they are. Your use of "genocide" is deliberately connoting that Trump is some kind of murderous bigot that hates Afghans and wants to get rid of them simply because they are Afghans.


Here’s what she said

"Calling Trump crazy hides the fact that we're crazy for having elected him and even crazier for allowing his crazy policies to persist," Allen Frances, the author of "Twilight of American Sanity," said on CNN's "Reliable Sources." "Trump is as destructive a person in this century as Hitler, Stalin and Mao were in the last century. He may be responsible for many more million deaths than they were. He needs to be contained, but he needs to be contained by attacking his policies, not his person."
She is not bluffing. She is not connoting. She is not saying that she does not want to accuse Trump. She is deliberately accusing him of some unsubstantiated and obviously ridiculous possibility. Or she may be lying.

As Spence would say, "big difference."
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