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Originally Posted by Jim in CT
Day 3 - so maybe we'll go until day 4? And this has been discussed, but I guess we have to discuss it again.
What difference does it make why it is harder? Blacks and Latinos say it is harder. That is not the issue.
I would imagine that a drivers license is the most common form of ID and blacks not having as many driver's licenses has something to do it (my Grand uncle died at 102 and voted every election - didn't drive, once he came here from another country never flew anywhere. So he didn't have a drivers license or a passport. Maybe he had a SS card - I don't know). The poorer folks live in the cities to be near the services there (hospitals, transportation, etc) and have less need for licenses. The older blacks might not have been born in hospitals many years ago so don't have birth certificates. Don't have as much $ as whites on average so they don't fly and don't have passports. I read that about 10% of the American's don't have a valid government ID. In some states you have to travel up to 250 miles to get an ID.
There have been numerous times when a strict ID law gets passed and word leaks out that a Rep. state rep. said something like "this will help keep the Dem. voter turnout down".
But again - that is not the issue.
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"What difference does it make why it is harder? Blacks and Latinos say it is harder. "
Show me a post from a black who says it's harder
because they are black, and why.
Let me see if I have an accurate grasp of your position here...
Paul: it's harder for blacks to get the id
Jim: how is the process harder for one race than another
Paul: because I say so
Is that about right? That's your argument? Paul, just last night, my 5 year-old told me I was a rotten father because I made him eat his veggies. He said I was a rotten person. Was I being mean? Nope. But he said I was.
Just because someone says something, doesn't make it so. If blacks freely choose not to get the id, that's their choice, it's not something that whitey forced upon them.
How did your grand uncle cash a check?
People in cities may not need drivers licenses. That doesn't mean they don't need a photo id.
Requiring a photo id is viewed by some, as a way of safeguarding the integrity of the process. I don't doubt that d requirements suppress more black votes than white votes. But that doesn't make it racist. It's only racist, if it's harder for blacks to get the id than whites. If the process of getting an id is too cumbersome, we need to address that. But if it's just a matter of people being too lazy to get the id, the fault lies with them, not with the law.
"word leaks out that a Rep. state rep. said something like "this will help keep the Dem. voter turnout down".
Then that person should be hounded from public service.