[Fergal]

the 10 above is actually a 'm'.

the one that i did for a vs200 last year is fine, that was 25-12-8m-8 runners.

some of the guides are on backorder. i'm hoping that the blanks ship before the holidays so i can start right after teh new year.

ps - when i was thinking about using the the kl's on the build i did last year the ring size was a concern. deep down i still think about the old cof rods, ~5 guides - 40-30-25-20-16-tip... going with the smaller guides does still seem foreign to me. a few things were 'comforting' tho. if i were using kw's i'd be starting with a 30, the kl/rv 25 is only 3.7mm shorter in overall height but the bottom of the ring is slightly higher with the kl/rv vs the kw. so, the ring size is small and the guide slightly shorter but it does keep the line a bit more off the blank.

i will play around with the builds but i think in the end casting will be at best equal and maybe better than the kw.

but it still doesn't seem right to me. old habits die hard.