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Originally Posted by Got Stripers
Number 8 for school shootings in 2018, over 200 school shootings since Sandy Hook, but we don't have any issues; move along. Our kids are disconnected, desensitized with violent video games and they come home to two working parents too tired to turn off the TV and social media to listen and hear.
Put that together with easy access to weapons of mass destruction and it's no wonder we are on this pace. I won't start the AR debate, since a semi auto pistol probably could do the same damage, but this troubled teen posted he was going to be a professional school shooter and nobody questions him or his parents?
Mental health is a big issue, tied to these shootings, the opioid epidemic, but let's fund the wall first; got to take care of campaign promises.
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We need a wall (border security actually) because people that should not be here come here illegally. But we can't have that conversation because one side doesn't want to solve it - but instead wants to use it as a wedge issue.
Item two, reports are this kid was mentioned to the FBI and other LE and they did nothing or could not so anything.
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
The problem you have is one side doesn't want to think there's a mental Health problem, and the other side doesn't want to think there's a gun problem.
When the answer is probably in the middle....and nobody wants to look there.
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^^^^ Nobody is willing to dance in the middle of the floor. 50 years ago the (very) mentally ill were locked up and now today, they and the less so are pilled up instead. Everyone sits to protect their sacred cows. You never hear the people wanting to take the guns discuss the problem with black teens being by far the highest murder rate - fix this and you fix the equivalent of a hundred schools - nor suicide, being the highest overall rate of firearms death. But people are perfectly capable of using at as wedge.
Every one of of these mass shootings have been a lost boy with problems, someone doing in the name of religion, or a lost boy doing in the name of religion. But some people want to decide what kind of weapons people, LEGALLY purchase. The significant majority of lawful gun owners do not do bad #^&#^&#^&#^& that would jeopardize their ability to exercise their constitutional rights.
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Originally Posted by spence
This sounds catchy but doesn't make much sense. Have democrats been ignoring the mental health aspects? Didn't Trump revoke an Obama era bill to make it harder for people to get guns?
Another tragedy and another round of there's nothing we can do.
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No, Trump repealed an Obama exorder that made people collecting with disabilities difficult to get a gun. That rule broad brushed many people that would not be a threat from purchasing firearms.
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
This will make perfect sense once the Kool-Aid buzz wears off. Its a combination that may be the answer or at least a step in the right direction. The Obama Era bill was more about who was collecting SS benefits than who is actually suffering from Mental Illnesses.
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^^^ This. But it sounded good and fits nicley in a sound bite.
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Originally Posted by spence
Maybe you should refer to them as the anti senseless mass killing folks.
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And this is why we can't have debate.