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Old 04-30-2020, 02:08 PM   #35
Pete F.
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post
Gen. Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI not because he was framed but because he got a sweet-ass deal to avoid massive criminal liability for being an unregistered agent of a foreign power while working for a presidential transition. He also avoided his son’s prosecution.
While in the White House, he unequivocally lied to both the Vice President of the United States and to the chief of staff to the President of the United States about his interactions with the Russian ambassador. And he was fired for it.
Nothing that has come out suggests the facts that he admitted to in the context of his plea are untrue or that his plea was coerced in any way. Nothing that was done to Flynn by the FBI isn’t done to criminal suspects all over the country.
If you’re outraged by the FBI’s tactics with Flynn, keep in mind that they do these things every day against drug dealers, gang members, and terrorists. Except those people are black, Hispanic, and Middle Eastern—not “lock ‘er up” lily white.
So yes, Trump* might pardon Flynn. But if you think Flynn is about to be “cleared,” sober up. Because while you might not know much about federal law enforcement and it’s standard practices, Judge Emmet Sullivan does. And he won’t be surprised by these supposed “revelations.”
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Originally Posted by detbuch View Post
If Flynn was the traitor you try to make him out to be with the usual non-specific or generalized "facts," it would not be necessary to go outside of Protocol as Comey admitted, and try to catch him in a perjury trap, and threaten to imprison his son if he didn't "cooperate." He should have been charged and convicted of espionage, or treason, or something other than the sleaze they tried to get him with. I don't think they actually thought that he was a traitor, nor that he even actually lied. Just my opinion derived from, firstly, the FBI interrogaters initially saying they didn't think he was lying, then by the tactics they used. And ultimately because it is becoming more apparent that they knew the whole Trump/Russia conspiracy narrative was politically driven by false information, and continuing the investigation into it long after they knew it was a hoax.
And ultimately because it is becoming more apparent that whatever makes your narrative work is what you assume.
Because people who are interrogating or negotiating never plan their strategy. They just blunder along like Trump*
Flynn plead guilty, and just like Zelensky did when he was asked if he was coerced or pressured, he said no.

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