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Old 12-18-2017, 11:31 AM   #253
detbuch
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Originally Posted by wdmso View Post
all theses women you say were assaulted have the same legal rights as the women who claimed Trump and Moore assaulted them.. the statute of limitations protect all of the accused equally public opinion is a separate matter

Moving the goal posts trick. I responded to your claim that Jim didn't live in the present because he compared the Dems lack of concern over Clinton's or Kennedy's sex predations to the way they are now supposedly so outraged over Trump's and Moore's (notice how the outrage over Moore has disappeared since he lost). And, for you somehow, "public opinion" (which is to a great extent molded by the press and by party affiliation) is to be the measuring stick for judging and comparing. So now, for you, because public opinion supposedly has died down over past Clinton and Kennedy transgressions they should no longer be relevant. But there is still, in the present, a "public opinion" regarding Kennedy and Clinton sex scandals. That hasn't gone away. And the comparison of the Dems lack of concern about those scandals to how they want to now use "outrage" to pursue and get rid of Trump (or any other Republican politician) is too obvious to ignore--unless the object is to restore Democrat Party power.

It is very convenient to say, oh well, statutes of limitations have expired, the Kennedy's have expired, all the countless politicians of the past who were sexually miscreant have expired, but NOW it's a new age. Trump has got to go. But wait. It's still the same old chit. But it's now the Dems who want to impeach and the Repubs who, sort of, don't.

So the "past" is still "present" it has not changed. And the women who suffered "past" Clinton, et al., sex "assaults" and are still alive will get no justice other than an acknowledgement that something should have been done, but, oh well, too late now. Can't remove the guys from office now that we should have then. See ya. Gotta move on and clear the deck of the bad guys today (like Trump and Moore for old supposed transgressions), even remove some Dems whose seats are in safe Dem territory. Today's a new day. Yeah, right.


and if Ted Kennedy or Bill Clinton were running for office today (present) those issues would be front and center

Oh, would they now? Those issues were very much up front back when those guys ran for office. But the Dems preferred power to so-called morality. What? All the folks who voted for Clinton are dead now, or are suddenly turned "moral" now? All the politicians who supported Clinton and would not remove him from office then, now see the light? What? There has now been a moral awakening? Surrrre there is . . . And you know this, how? Notice how even many of those (including media types) who accuse Trump are themselves guilty of sexual misconduct. And how many more are but have not been exposed. We are talking humans with their human nature, not saints or angels. And we are talking power. Humans seeking power for its sake are several steps shy of morality. And I'm not seeing how that will change, especially in a world of moral relativity.

They were wrong the day they happen and still are . the idea that they are not and they were not punished .. is another conservative urban legend ! Ted Kennedy plead guilty.

Of sexual "assault"? Was he removed from office?

and the House of Representatives approves two articles of impeachment against President Bill Clinton, charging him with lying under oath to a federal grand jury and obstructing justice.

Was he removed from office?

so please spare me there was no "justice" for their actions ?
If you consider "justice" for those women assaulted by Clinton to be a Congressional slap on the wrist (for something secondarily being related to his assaults) and his continuing to remain in power and to get wealthier because of that power, and, as well, his wife who rubbed salt in the wounds inflicted by her husband, gaining power and wealth as well, if you consider that "justice," then what do you consider justice would be for Trump?

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