Thanks.
I looked at them, one looks like a duplicate in part. Most are taking predictions with no date or time in them, and saying ‘wrong’ when really, the implications of the original source is probably later this century....
Were some of the crazy predictions made in the 70’s a bit dramatic (centered around the earth day origin), sure. Does that mean we should ignore everything since then, nope.
I read your links, read the ones I posted, watch the model clip.
The first one, Cato said we need to have it dealt with it by now (2000, 2012) meaning, reducing CO2. Not a prediction that by 2019 Philadelphia would be ocean front. The prediction mentioned was 2080 or something similar
The second was broader on environmental issues, not really climate change.
Watts list covers things with no time mentioned in many, only in the future, except a few at 2030, 2050 and 2080. How can they be ‘wrong’ in the future.
The new American claim that temperature has not risen since 1996 has been debunked. Do some reading on skeptical science, it has some good explanations in a reasonable way.
https://skepticalscience.com/global-...ed-in-1998.htm
Humans are free list I don’t have time to deal with, and would have to pull a few sources, as I am not up on things like tornado predictions, but #1 is flat out wrong, sea level is rising, and that rate of rise has accelerated in the last few decades. Tide gauge records and satellite altimeter data shows this. A colleague’s work with his grad students suggests locally, this is the highest rate in 3,300 years at least, based on studies of past sea level in marshes. The one on temperature being flat is also wrong, see above.
You are right, we are in uncharted territory for the rate of industrialization and CO2 emissions. There are also times in the geologic past, due to other processes/reasons, CO2 was higher. At those times, sea level was much higher than present and the temperature was much warmer. As you are wont to say, try making that wrong
As far as solar panels, all energy production has consequences. All. I am waiting and hoping for solar shingles!
Good night Jim.
Sorry for derailing the thread on the deficit....
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