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Old 01-20-2020, 10:54 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT View Post
trump ran on this, it was probably his single core issue, and he won.

elections have consequences. I know I’ve heard that before, and so have you.

If diverting it from the defense budget is illegal, impeach him
for that too.

Wayne, there are certain focal points for illegal
crossings that mexicans tend to use. the bad guys on the other side know this, and some very bad people lay in wait. Because if this, it’s estimated that huge numbers of women attempting to cross illegally, get sexually assaulted.

Selling the border could
force illegals to cross at ports of entry, where there is a large law enforcement presence. That could
significantly reduce the violence.

This is what democrats refer to as a “manufactured crisis”.

The same democrats who refuse to celebrate lowest black unemployment ever, also refuse to concede that’s its a real crisis when huge numbers of women get raped.
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Floridaman was elected President.
The office of the President is administrative and does not decide who and what gets funded. It make recommendations in it's budget that it presents to Congress.
The power of the purse is given to Congress in the Constitution.
A Republican majority Congress that was in power for 2 years chose not to give Floridaman the funding for his border wall.
Congress does need to take back the power it has let the president appropriate and make the hard decisions they need to.
They have one that they are working on shortly.

Black workers are still twice as likely to be unemployed as white workers overall (6.4% vs. 3.1%). Even black workers with a college degree are more likely to be unemployed than similarly educated white workers (3.5% vs. 2.2%). When they are employed, black workers with a college or advanced degree are more likely than their white counterparts to be underemployed when it comes to their skill level—almost 40% are in a job that typically does not require a college degree, compared with 31% of white college grads. This relatively high black unemployment and skills-based underemployment suggests that racial discrimination remains a failure of an otherwise tight labor market.

Your huge rape numbers are another "manufactured crisis" amplified by right wing media.

The Facts
First, let’s take a look at Trump’s figure. The White House attributes the 1-in-3 estimate to a 2017 report by Doctors Without Borders. But there’s less to that number than meets the eye.

Trump states as a fact that 1 out of 3 women traveling through Mexico are sexually assaulted. But the report did not conduct a random-sample survey that could be applied to all migrant women. Instead, the group interviewed nearly 500 people whom its doctors treated, of which 12 percent were women. So the statistic is derived from the experiences of 56 women and cannot necessarily be considered representative of all migrant women.

In the interviews, 31.4 percent of women said they were “sexually abused” on the journey, not “sexually assaulted” as Trump says. Considering only rape and other forms of direct sexual violence, 10.7 percent of the women who were interviewed said they were affected during their journey.

Ten percent is significantly smaller than 60 percent, which led us to wonder how the Amnesty figure was derived.

In October 2013, Amnesty International issued a news release about a slide show exhibit on migrants that would open in Mexico City. “Rape is widespread,” the news release said. “It is believed that as many as six out of every 10 migrant women and girls experience sexual violence during the journey.”

No source for this information was cited. It took a little digging, but eventually we located a 2010 report issued by Amnesty International: “Invisible Victims: Migrants on the move in Mexico.” Buried in the report is this line: “It is a widely held view — shared by local and international NGOs and health professionals working with migrant women — that as many as six in 10 migrant women and girls are raped.”

Already you can see there’s a problem. A statistic cited in 2019 comes from a 2010 report. The sentence had a footnote, so we followed that. The source was a 2002 report in Spanish by Luis Mora, written for the United Nations Population Fund. The footnote added: “The report itself cites a 1999 report,” and it gave the citation.

So, we are no longer in 2010 and may be as far back as 1999. The numbers are getting especially stale. When we located Mora’s paper, we discovered that the Amnesty report had cited the wrong source, and had mischaracterized it.

A sentence on page 12 of Mora’s report said: “Investigations conducted along Mexico’s southern border have demonstrated that 70 percent of female migrants are subjected to violence and 60 percent are subjected to some form of sexual abuse during the trip, ranging from sexual coercion to rape.”

The 1999 citation in Amnesty’s 2010 report referred to the 70 percent facing violence; a different document was the source of the 60 percent figure. Note also that it was not just about rape but any form of sexual abuse, “ranging from sexual coercion to rape.”

So where did the 60 percent figure come from? Mora cited a 1998 book, published in English as “For Those Who Didn’t Make It . . . A Dream in Ashes,” written by Paul Kobrak and Mayra Palencia. The 128-page book was published by a refugee organization sponsored by the Catholic Church in Guatemala.

But when we obtained the book, we were surprised to see how the statistic is framed: “A study of migrants estimates that 60 percent of the illegal female migrants have some sort of sexual experience in their trip toward the U.S.: from rape or coerced sexual relations, to a lover.”

Certainly looks to me like Republicans didn't celebrate the election of a black President either, does that mean they are racist, just don't care about blacks or it has nothing to do with race?


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