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Originally Posted by JohnnyD
"I know a constructive discussion about the above is impossible and it will quickly tailspin into a thread about the ridiculous spending, Obama's a socialist and whatnot as every other thread spirals into, but it's worth a try."
Some are incapable of being objective.
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Johnny, I'm 100% objective.
In my objective view, Obama has taken deficit spending to levels NEVER seen before in this country (in terms of absolute dollars). You cannot deny that, I'm not making that up because I'm secretly a racist and hate Obama (I do hate him, but not because of his race). If I bring up the possible ramifications of this level of spending, in your opinion, I'm not being objective?
As for whether or not he's a socialist? Obviously, Obama is not a totalitarian communist like Stalin. But I think it's absolutely fair to compare him to the western european socialists. Do you deny that Obama's view of what America should be, is similar to the western european socialist nations? If you do deny that, please tell me what the difference is? It's clear to me that Obama favors a federal government that looks like a western european (i.e., socialist) model. I don't know WHY he favors that, since we are currently witnessing what that leads to, but clearly that's his ideal.
It seems to me that you're suggesting that calling Obama a socialist, or worrying about debt, is what conservatives do to distract attention away frrom valid issues. In my opinion, those are valid issues.