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12-10-2004, 12:04 PM
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Simple Question(?)
Simple question (?)
What is the magic formula to sealing a plug before painting that will avoid bleed through and minimize expansion and contraction of the wood? I have a feeling that not only what you use but the conditions under which you use your chosen chemicals/preparations etc. are key as well. ie: dunk time, temp in the space, hang/drying time.
Would anyone care to share thier thoughts on this? Thanks in advance. ( not looking for trade secrets just basic info that will help me figure it out as I go along) Flap.  |
Why even try......... 
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12-10-2004, 12:22 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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do a search under plug sealing,,,it's all there,,,,,plus! u just saw it at bm's last sunday I beleive...V.O
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BOAT fish do count.
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12-10-2004, 12:35 PM
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Canceled
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VO
I tried that, after I drank a bunch my plugs were sealed good enuff. 
but seriously, I can't find Val Oil in Vermont. Is it made by Valspar? |
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12-10-2004, 02:00 PM
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I saw it at Home Depot. There should be a cut rate listed on the back of the can for enhancing drying time/penetration Nes't Pas? |
Why even try.........
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12-10-2004, 02:41 PM
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I've noticed that harder woods require a longer soaking time than softer woods, so when i soak my needles (did a batch a few minutes ago) i dunked them for about 3 minutes. then i dunked a AYC danny and i only did it for about 45 seconds.. I've been really hung up on minwax wood hardner as a sealer, for the AYC stuff, it makes it tough as nails and I havent noticed any problems with it except for the smell, but I have an enormous exhaust fan here at work so the smell isnt an issue.
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12-10-2004, 02:43 PM
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No way dave is gonna seal his plugs.I was just comin round full circle to no seal an a light coat of urethane an go fishin i figure I can turn a plug on monday an be fishin with it wed.
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12-10-2004, 02:46 PM
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I read where someone was usin japan dryer with Linseed oil an havin good result.any body try cuttin the ValOil with Penetrol or Jap Dryer.
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12-10-2004, 02:49 PM
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I leave the softwoods down for 2 hrs. The hardwoods down for around 12 or overnite. I use VO Not Seagrams |
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12-10-2004, 02:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Eben
I've noticed that harder woods require a longer soaking time than softer woods, so when i soak my needles (did a batch a few minutes ago) i dunked them for about 3 minutes. then i dunked a AYC danny and i only did it for about 45 seconds.. I've been really hung up on minwax wood hardner as a sealer, for the AYC stuff, it makes it tough as nails and I havent noticed any problems with it except for the smell, but I have an enormous exhaust fan here at work so the smell isnt an issue.
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Eben, be careful with the wood hardner. It messes with your liver and can be absorbed through your skin |
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12-10-2004, 02:57 PM
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yuck.. no i never touch it...I have a plastic weldingrod container with a screw on platic cap and keep that filled with the wood hardner. Then I attach my plugs to a 1/8th rod and dip them, then hang them up to dry next to my furnace... so I never touch the stuff. Its about 120 degrees next to my furnace so it dries in about 2 minutes then i'm ready to paint  |
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12-10-2004, 03:15 PM
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Eben, is that that Minwax product that comes in a pint can with a screw top?
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Why even try.........
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12-10-2004, 03:24 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
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BOAT fish do count.
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12-10-2004, 03:24 PM
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yes.. the problem is that the screw top is too small to dip plugs in there so I bought 2 cans of the junk and ppoured them into my welding rod tube.. If you go the minwax route, please use caution as Mac has said, it really does stink  |
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12-10-2004, 04:22 PM
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And is extremely flamable
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12-10-2004, 04:52 PM
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VO & turps... hmm CS, think if I recommend that to my VO customers, I'll get some complaints? 
The VO I sell will ruin yer liver, just like that Wood Hardener Stuff, Except, I think the Wood Hardner would do it a lot quicker.......
Now, CS, isn't there another old timey product out there that's similar? I had the name, but I forgot it  .... if it pops back into my head, I'll repost.... |
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12-11-2004, 07:51 AM
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Waterlocks? Used to use it years ago to refinish furniture,
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