N. E. Boatshow - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Raider Ronnie · 02-15-2005, 09:14 PM

Anyone here going?

MTC · 02-15-2005, 10:17 PM

Just got back, Loved the 23' Polar, Scout, Welcraft and Cobia...

All Center Consoles.....

Moses · 02-15-2005, 10:26 PM

Heading in tomorrow (wed) right at 1pm......

Van · 02-15-2005, 11:42 PM

friday night ron with my buddies.

you ????????

Raider Ronnie · 02-16-2005, 06:53 AM

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Originally posted by Van
friday night ron with my buddies.

you ????????

Van,
I'll see you there

Van · 02-16-2005, 08:29 AM

Ronnie:

Come by the house for "Happy hour" before the show if you want.

See you at juniors meeting tomorrow night anyway..
Tom will be there too...

Iwannakeeper · 02-16-2005, 03:50 PM

I went....a lot of nice boats. I actually think I was overwhelmed. I was trying to narrow down my future purchse options, instead I thiink i expanded them.

-IWK

Vectorfisher · 02-16-2005, 05:42 PM

Iwanna just tell me what you want write out the check, leave the amount blank and I will get it to you

blue oyster · 02-16-2005, 08:24 PM

not a lot of changes from last year in the center consols , i did look at the edgewaters not very impressed , looks like its going to be a parker

MTC · 02-16-2005, 09:33 PM

I was impressed by the 23' Sailfish... Went back in tonight for the second time.

BEETLE · 02-17-2005, 07:25 AM

Looks like me and bobbike will be there Friday after work..

Van · 02-17-2005, 08:23 AM

Got 4$ tickets for the show yesterday at Mony's....

Gotofish · 02-17-2005, 10:10 AM

Is there anywhere you can get discounted tickets or coupons for a couple $ off?

Unemployment sucks

BEETLE · 02-17-2005, 12:15 PM

As Van said above, Monys (Monahans Marine, Weymouth) has Tix for $4. each.
I would go to the show website, find a dealer in your area and see if they are offering tix.

Fish On · 02-17-2005, 05:31 PM

Anyone know if the 26 or 28 foot WA Cuddy from Hydra-Sports is there?

beamie · 02-17-2005, 06:20 PM

It's not the show ticket you need a discount on.........................it's the parking

Gotofish · 02-17-2005, 07:42 PM

Every time I've been to the NE Boatshow it was with my old tuna fishing buddies. One owned a bus co. so we'd take a charter bus with a bathroom, TV's and everything for about twelve of us. Almost like going to a Buffet concert with the tunes and everything! Anyway, parking's never been an issue. Maybe I'll bring a bike and ride in from the Quincy T station!

Anyone else going on Sat.?

Fish On · 02-18-2005, 09:23 AM

Beamie is that your rig in the picture? Looks sweet. What are the high level specs?

Van · 02-19-2005, 12:48 AM

Got back a while earlier, can't beleive the prices. and I notice they are underpowering many boats just to keep the $ down.

You'll be sorry if you buy one of those.

Comon a 22 with 150 Hp 4 stroke. last to the dock if you ask me....can you say DOG..........

Salesman says it will do 42.....I almost soiled myself.....laughing.

Another salesman I shoulda smacked upside the head, but i told him off instead. what a jerk he was.....they must be desparate..

ScottM · 02-19-2005, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by Van
they must be desparate..

Van,
They are. A buddy of mine sells boats for one of the big north shore dealers and he said it's been the worst show in 20 years. Nobody is buying and traffic is way down. Through last night they only sold 5 boats, usually they sell 30!

Van · 02-19-2005, 09:52 AM

Yea, we thought a friday night would be nuts, but not at all, really small crowd...

my favorite thing there though was the.............

VERADO 275.....what a freakin mean machine

Raider Ronnie · 02-19-2005, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Van
Yea, we thought a friday night would be nuts, but not at all, really small crowd...

my favorite thing there though was the.............

VERADO 275.....what a freakin man machine

I saw a few boats (Fountain) with 3 of those mounted on the back!!!

Vectorfisher · 02-19-2005, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Van
Got back a while earlier, can't beleive the prices. and I notice they are underpowering many boats just to keep the $ down.

You'll be sorry if you buy one of those.

Comon a 22 with 150 Hp 4 stroke. last to the dock if you ask me....can you say DOG..........

Salesman says it will do 42.....I almost soiled myself.....laughing.

Another salesman I shoulda smacked upside the head, but i told him off instead. what a jerk he was.....they must be desparate..

Good maybe the industry will start providing quality with a fair price tag rather than junk with a let's see how much we can get for it attitude.

Mr. Sandman · 02-19-2005, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Van
Yea, we thought a friday night would be nuts, but not at all, really small crowd...

my favorite thing there though was the.............

VERADO 275.....what a freakin man machine

That engine is huge...over 7.5' tall
Some nice technology but I hope to move away from ob's . Did you see that Ship Shape show where they compared a 27' Ocean Master with twin 200 Hp Yami OB's to a the identical boat with a 300 cummins jackshaft to a brovo II drive?

It was impressive, range at cruise was 2.5X the ob range and at troll it was insane difference. Net cost about the same.

Vectorfisher · 02-19-2005, 04:10 PM

Now now Sandman you cant tell me the Cummins would troll @ 0.4GPH like my outdated 99 225 would.

Mr. Sandman · 02-19-2005, 04:34 PM

you burn .4 gal just to start that ob up

Team Rock On · 02-19-2005, 06:30 PM

The trolling comparison was done @6-8 knots, which is a terrible speed for an outboard, fuel consumption wise, wheras the diesal is barely idling. I'd have to agree with SM though, outboards are becoming less desirable. What will a Verado be worth in a few years when the warranty runs out and it has 600 hours on it? I think they quoted the Ocean Runner engine options as 30,000 with twin 150 yam's, or 24000 with the single cummins. The hull modification for the Cummins was about 4000 extra. Speed at WOT throttle is way overated these days.

Mr. Sandman · 02-19-2005, 08:33 PM

I like the yanmar but they all are jumping on this electronic bandwagon. The range and smoke improvements are dramatic.

They had a table at the end of the show...The WOT on that boat was 47 with twin 200's and 41 with a single 300 hp diesel. The cruise speed was the same. I bet a few more HP could get you the same WOT and still have an amazing range. Still, 41 is a pretty good clip.

They showed two speeds in detail, the 6 knot troll and the cruise ( I think it was 31knots), in any case at troll it was a blow out. The diesel would run for like 350 hours on a tank of fuel and the ob's were done in like 40 hours. But at cruise, the cummins had 2.5X times the range still. The net cost was about the same. But to me the big kicker is longivity and reliability. They didn't even mention that but you will get 10X the hours on the cummins before replacement. Also, the fuel costs, 1.80 vs 2.59 for gas. The down side is the twin vs single issue (which is significant) but this is offset again by the added costs of twins.

I see more and more boats moving in this direction.

My next boat will have this no question. I can't see me buying into this giant ob trend. (again) (eek I have a 04 225 4stroke...but I was desparate)

With regard to the verado, I think they did some great things in that engine...really, I like the steering, electronic throttle technology (not crazy about supercharging ) but it is an amazing package. What does the 275 weigh? ...is it has to be close to 900# Imagine 3 of those on a 33' hydrosports CC

nice ride but the gas bill has got to hurt.

I have a relative who just bought a 27' CC whaler and it has twin verados (I think 200's) I will be on it this summer for sure. Should be fun.

ScottM · 02-20-2005, 08:44 AM

Sandman,
Have you seen the 28' Scout with the single 300hp Cummins/Bravo IIIX? That is a nice setup and similar perofrmance to the Ocean Master. Although I'm not crazy about I/O's, I'm liking what I see in this type of package more and more.

fishsmith · 02-20-2005, 04:49 PM

Just got back from the show, wow was it dead. All the Merc talk on this thread is right on the money, those outboards are MONSTERS. I saw a 250 on a bass boat, hard to believe that thing will float, but when your the first to a 4lb bass I guess it makes it all worth it

The most interesting thing I saw was the touch screen electronic charts, those were very cool.

I really liked the 20 footer by Pilot , but 50K w/ a 135 Honda, give me a break.