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09-15-2005, 02:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: medfa,mass
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Giambi back on the juice??
i was listenin to eei the other day, and an interesting point came across.
Giambi as we all know couldn't hit a slow pitch fastball pitcher early in the season but lately has been on the tear to end all tears. the guy has already been tested both times this year that are allowed by the players union.
anyone else think its a bit fishy? :P, and also, why not open it up to testing more then twice per season?
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09-15-2005, 07:16 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Most of the designer steroids these rich guys use are probably not detectable anyway. They make enough money to hire there own personal chemist. They will probably always be one step ahead of the game if they want to cheat. Paul
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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09-16-2005, 07:03 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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new masking agent is my guess, these guys are on the cutting edge. plus he looks a lot bigger than in april.
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09-16-2005, 07:53 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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HGH . MLB doesn't test for it I heard. The whole drug policy is a joke. Hope he isn't that stupid though.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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09-16-2005, 07:57 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
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if mlb can't controll it, maybe someone else should- HATE getting gov't involved, but as paul said it's a joke. hate to see outcomes influenced by outright cheaters. yankee resurgence seems to coinside with juiceys'.
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09-16-2005, 08:44 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: medfa,mass
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mlb does not test for human growth hormone, as professor moriarty pointed out
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09-16-2005, 09:03 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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HGH occurs naturally in a male's body. In order to effectively test for it, you need a starting level as a reference point. If a 35 year old man had a higher level than he did at age 25, it would be pretty clear he took it as a supplement. But since the level varies in everyone, you'd need to know what the prior level was.
That's the problem with Barry Bonds. Everyone knows in their gut he's taken HGH (how otherwise do you explain how his head grew after age 35?). A normal 40 year old man should have negligible amounts of HGH. But suppose Bonds naturally produces it at an abnormal level? Without knowing what his levels were in his younger years, you can't suspend him. You can ban a substance that a body produces naturally if it's taken as a supplement in inordinate amounts, but how do you prove it was taken as a supplement and not produced naturally by the body? You need a reference number to start with--it's not as easy as testing for steroids where a positive result is all you need.
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