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11-02-2006, 12:36 PM
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We're winning in Iraq
Did anyone see this chart published by the NY Times the other day? It's from a very recent Pentagon presentation on the situation in Iraq.
For the past 2 years we've been told numerous stories on how things are getting better. Just this week Bush said we're winning in Iraq.
I'm not just posting this for political points, I'm serious here...and you're focused on a stupid John Kerry gaff?
-spence
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11-02-2006, 01:21 PM
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Too much reading. This is way better.
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The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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11-02-2006, 01:38 PM
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I see you've proven my point.
-spence
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11-02-2006, 01:43 PM
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much like our basketball in the olympics.
Godbless all those who have lost their lives and their families and loved ones in Iraq and Afghanistan and all the secret ops losses as well.
What a long strange trip it has been and will continue to be for unseen years to come.
Godbless us all
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Good health and family
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11-02-2006, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bronko
Too much reading. This is way better.
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Kind of looks like a well to do gopher sneaking out of his tunnel on the Bush spread in Texas |
Good health and family
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11-02-2006, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by spence
I see you've proven my point.
-spence
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I couldn't resist.  |
The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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11-02-2006, 02:17 PM
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What I would lie to know is when is some AAG, going to have enough balls to file charges against the NY times and its editors for aiding and abetting the enemy by releasing all of these classified documents and secrets? If there is ever another terrorist attack, and I'm sure there will be, the NY Times is going to have more blood on its hands than anyone else, except for the perpertraors.
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11-02-2006, 02:27 PM
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So it's more upsetting that the NYT reported this story, than the fact that Bush continues to misrepresent what they're being told?
-spence
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11-02-2006, 02:33 PM
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Wonder how many Troop deaths can be attributed to the NYT and those who support them.
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11-02-2006, 02:34 PM
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Wonder how many Troop deaths can be attributed to the NYT and those who support them.
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Care to compare that to the troops killed by arrogant and reckless foreign policy?
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11-02-2006, 02:36 PM
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Imagine if we judged the progress of WWII on a selected one week snapshot.
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11-02-2006, 02:37 PM
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Theres a place in Boston
New England Shelter for Homeless Vets on Court street 1/2 of there funding was due to kerry, Kennedy, Joe Moakley had a big part. please when it comes to kerry and vetrans he is there in the front fighting for whats do them No Vetran should ever sleep in the street and Kerry sees to it they dont you can make all the jokes you want but if you read into what he has done for the vets you will see a slip up on a joke was blown way out of porportion.
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11-02-2006, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Care to compare that to the troops killed by arrogant and reckless foreign policy?
-spence
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I guess the difference between you and I is the point that I blame troop deaths on the enemies killing them. |
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11-02-2006, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripersnipr
Imagine if we judged the progress of WWII on a selected one week snapshot.
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Apples and oranges.
This isn't about progress alone.
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11-02-2006, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
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Apples and oranges.
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Unless it fits your agenda. |
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11-02-2006, 02:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Care to compare that to the troops killed by arrogant and reckless foreign policy?
-spence
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11-02-2006, 02:46 PM
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Unless it fits your agenda.
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Well, considering my agenda is honest and effective government...I guess it doesn't fit.
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11-02-2006, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Well, considering my agenda is honest and effective government...I guess it doesn't fit.
-spence
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I prefer reality  |
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11-02-2006, 02:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Well, considering my agenda is honest and effective government...I guess it doesn't fit.
-spence
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11-02-2006, 02:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripersnipr
I guess the difference between you and I is the point that I blame troop deaths on the enemies killing them.
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You mean the NYT wasn't gunning them down?
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11-02-2006, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
You mean the NYT wasn't gunning them down?
-spence
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11-02-2006, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
You mean the NYT wasn't gunning them down?
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Of course they are. Like I said, I blame Troop deaths on the enemy. |
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11-02-2006, 03:03 PM
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OK Ben - it was funny at first now it is getting old... Knock off the Anti Spence (or dedicated antianyonewiththeexceptionofpeta) stance...
thanks...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-02-2006, 03:05 PM
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Don't know why anyone can't have a discussion about what's going on?
-spence
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11-02-2006, 03:09 PM
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Don't know why anyone can't have a discussion about what's going on?
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It'd be a pretty boring existence if we all agreed on everything. And as much as I like to devour Spences lame arguments I think he's a decent guy even though he wasn't raised properly and his values are skewed.
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11-02-2006, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Don't know why anyone can't have a discussion about what's going on?
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because you are a !@#$ing broken record.
Shut up!
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11-02-2006, 03:18 PM
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11-02-2006, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
OK Ben - it was funny at first now it is getting old... Knock off the Anti Spence (or dedicated antianyonewiththeexceptionofpeta) stance...
thanks...
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Just in case you missed it... Debate him, don't attack him (or others) tooo much, debate... |
~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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11-02-2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stripersnipr
It'd be a pretty boring existence if we all agreed on everything.
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People can't even entertain a dialog...
Iraq is going from really bad to worse. Does anybody care?
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11-02-2006, 05:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spence
Does anybody care?-spence
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He Cares....Sorry couldn't help myself |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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