Some pogie news

[TheSpecialist]

Surfland Fishing Report

[robc22]

Ya....the old expression " can't have your cake and eat it too" translates into "can't have your pet food/fish oil pills and hook baits too!!!!"

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by robc22

Ya....the old expression " can't have your cake and eat it too" translates into "can't have your pet food/fish oil pills and hook baits too!!!!"

I don't think it's a matter of baits for fishing. It's a matter of forage for the striped bass. If Omega was stopped, but it meant pogies would be treated like herring and we couldn't use them as bait, then so be it.

[robc22]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

I don't think it's a matter of baits for fishing. It's a matter of forage for the striped bass. If Omega was stopped, but it meant pogies would be treated like herring and we couldn't use them as bait, then so be it.

But would menhaden still be harvested for stores like GNC to make there health pills........again the fisheries in this country are a COMMONWEALTH resource.....that is a long accepted practice......The american buying fish oil pills at the local health food store has a much a right to that finfish resource as the guy live-lining a pogy to catch a striper........

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by robc22

But would menhaden still be harvested for stores like GNC to make there health pills........again the fisheries in this country are a COMMONWEALTH resource.....that is a long accepted practice......The american buying fish oil pills at the local health food store has a much a right to that finfish resource as the guy live-lining a pogy to catch a striper........

And like i said, if Omega goes but being able to use them as bait has to go at the same time, then so be it.

[robc22]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

And like i said, if Omega goes but being able to use them as bait has to go at the same time, then so be it.

thats fair across the board!!!!..............

[MikeToole]

This is not an Omega issue or a state of Virginia issue. ASMFC sets the numbers, not Omega or Virginia.

ASMFC has recognized that there is problems associated with reduced numbers of menhaden so they set lower harvest numbers. ASMFC has set the Chesapeake Bay at 109,020 metric tons with a roll over of any overage or underage. Problem is the last two years the harvest has been only about 85,000. Omega hasn't even been able to fill the quota. With the roll over, in 2010 the quota will be 122,740. So as the numbers of menhaden continues to decrease, ASMFC answer, through, Addendum IV, is to continue with the present numbers for another three years, through 2013.

Below is from the ASMFC management plan:

"The 2008 coastwide harvest of Atlantic menhaden (reduction and bait [preliminary]) was 188,467 metric tons; this is down 14% from the 219,100 metric tons landed in 2007. The 2008harvest for reduction purposes only was 141,133 metric tons. This is down 19% from the 2007 landings of 174,455 metric tons, and down 15% from the previous 5-year (2003-2007) average of 165,660 metric tons (Figure 1). Omega Protein’s plant at Reedville, Virginia, with ten vessels in 2008, is the only active menhaden reduction factory on the Atlantic coast. Beaufort Fisheries Inc. has been closed since after the 2004 fishing season.
The preliminary estimate of the coastwide bait harvest for 2008 is 46,790 metric tons; this is up 6% over the 2007 bait harvest of 44,620 metric tons, and up 24% over the average harvest of the
previous five years (2003-2007) of 35,853 metric tons (Figure 1).
The increase in bait landings in 2008 was most pronounced in the New England region wherelandings of 7,780 metric tons nearly tripled those of 2007 (2,610 metric tons), and were the highest for the region since 1993 (11,638 metric tons) (Table 2). Bait landings in the
Chesapeake Bay region for 2008 in dropped 13% from 2006 to 21,150 metric tons. The Mid Atlantic region saw very little change in bait landings from 2007 to 2008. Bait landings in the South Atlantic region dropped over 42% but this amounted to only a 230 metric tons decrease.

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by MikeToole

This is not an Omega issue or a state of Virginia issue. ASMFC sets the numbers, not Omega or Virginia.

ASMFC has recognized that there is problems associated with reduced numbers of menhaden so they set lower harvest numbers. ASMFC has set the Chesapeake Bay at 109,020 metric tons with a roll over of any overage or underage. Problem is the last two years the harvest has been only about 85,000. Omega hasn't even been able to fill the quota. With the roll over, in 2010 the quota will be 122,740. So as the numbers of menhaden continues to decrease, ASMFC answer, through, Addendum IV, is to continue with the present numbers for another three years, through 2013.

Below is from the ASMFC management plan:

"The 2008 coastwide harvest of Atlantic menhaden (reduction and bait [preliminary]) was 188,467 metric tons; this is down 14% from the 219,100 metric tons landed in 2007. The 2008harvest for reduction purposes only was 141,133 metric tons. This is down 19% from the 2007 landings of 174,455 metric tons, and down 15% from the previous 5-year (2003-2007) average of 165,660 metric tons (Figure 1). Omega Protein’s plant at Reedville, Virginia, with ten vessels in 2008, is the only active menhaden reduction factory on the Atlantic coast. Beaufort Fisheries Inc. has been closed since after the 2004 fishing season.
The preliminary estimate of the coastwide bait harvest for 2008 is 46,790 metric tons; this is up 6% over the 2007 bait harvest of 44,620 metric tons, and up 24% over the average harvest of the
previous five years (2003-2007) of 35,853 metric tons (Figure 1).
The increase in bait landings in 2008 was most pronounced in the New England region wherelandings of 7,780 metric tons nearly tripled those of 2007 (2,610 metric tons), and were the highest for the region since 1993 (11,638 metric tons) (Table 2). Bait landings in the
Chesapeake Bay region for 2008 in dropped 13% from 2006 to 21,150 metric tons. The Mid Atlantic region saw very little change in bait landings from 2007 to 2008. Bait landings in the South Atlantic region dropped over 42% but this amounted to only a 230 metric tons decrease.

Figures, they are not making the quota consistently, and the geniuses see nothing wrong.