wire line reels

[macojoe]

What kind of reels do you guys like to use for wire lineing?? I was using penn 114 but they are reel heavy. I used a penn 45GLS last year and it seemed to work out pretty good. I would like to use a new graphite reel of some kind but all I see to find are 340GTI buit they are all level winds.
What are your thoughts??

MacoJoe

[Van]

Two on the old reliable PENN squidder...

Two on a shimano TLD 15, they have the nice lever drag.
Its not a level wind, i don't think they are feasible for wire lining.
It is graphite light too.

[mikecc]

Penn 500L or a 500M if you can find one, 113HSP and 330GTI

[capesams]

3/0 penn....haven't killed one of them yet.....been tryin for a lonnnngg time.

[fishweewee]

Shimano TLD 15 or 20.

[capesams]

penn

[Goose]

113H

[macojoe]

Well I got a lot of ideas now. I have 3- 500 L. But I have just converted my squider 140's to 146's I love them for Fluke fishing.
Thanks guys
Macojoe

[Rip Runner]

My father and I have 15 Penn 113H reels between the 2 of us set up on wire and have been using them for years. You CAN'T go wrong with the 113H, our reels get heavy use doing charters and they all work great. The key is to loosen your drag everytime your done using them, or you will ruin the drag.

[DaveS]

Penn 4/0 Senators(High speed), ya cant beat 'em plus they hold lotta backing and 300 feet of Monel(the standard here in NJ).

[macojoe]

I laod my 114H and 113H with 600 yards of 50# wire Just incase of a break off.But I have a 100# mono leader about 10 feet long between 300 yards. This way I have mono to jig on at 300 which is about what we need here. and If needed I can cut that off and work on the 2nd 300.
Macojoe

[DaveS]

100# leader huh? And 600 yards of Monel! Thats kinda heavy IMHO and expensive to boot. 300 feet of Monel 40# will get ya down to 25-30 feet at around 2-4 knots with a 3 oz parachute jig. I jig and troll spoons in some rocky spots and the most I ever use is 40# Monel and about 15 feet of Ande 50# for leader. Even when trolling umbrella rigs, I can have 3 or 6 fish on and never have I had the leader break on me, even with several 20# fish on the same umbrella. Macojoe, how U tyin your leader to the wire? Do you an Albright? I dont like bead chain or swivels going thru my guides, and bead chain tends to break at the worst times.

[macojoe]

Well Dave I use 600 yards because I do this commercial and when you break the wire ( which always happens when you don't want to) I will have another 300 ready to go. I put the 100# between the two 300 leanths so I have mono to jig on saving the wire. My leaders are also 50# and never have any problems with it. I use 3 to 5 oz Jigs and a swivel from wire to mono. I have my wire marked with perment marker about 10 yards out so I no it is comming and I avoid (most of the time) bring the swivel to the roller top. My ahnds don't work as good as they use to so a swivel is reel quick to put on, then trying to tie knots. What can Isay, It works for me.
Macojoe

[DaveS]

I hear ya, if it's easier for ya then go with what ya know.

[Jon G]

Old reiable 113HSP my favorite

[fishweewee]

Yah know, I'm going to be actually crazy enough to try to wire line a chunk of meat in a certain fast moving spot of water...from shore this Spring.

[bassmaster]

i have used #60 monell on the 113h and put 120 dacron every 150 feet Put 600 feet on allso. no mon no nothin wire right to Jig
fished in 90 feet of water of the islands to get those extra fish B4 going to market.
Jig on the dacron not the monell, wire lining sucks

[gbry15]

fishweewee


How are the Shimano 15's and 20's holding up using wire on them? How much use have you given them.

gary

[Duke41]

113 H. Can't kill em

[fishweewee]

Originally posted by gbry15
fishweewee
How are the Shimano 15's and 20's holding up using wire on them? How much use have you given them.
gary

Gary - I ain't no boating expert and I don't use wire line a lot.

But on certain charters where nothing else is producing, I will use my own wireline rig to position a chunk of meat in strong current to get down to the fish. Capt. Bob Rocchetta (Orient Point, NY) showed me this technique to great effect over the past few years. I think last year it caught a 50 for him...in the morning in broad daylight.

I would go with the TLD 20 for wire line trolling applications and chunking into a fast current. If you're using braided line for backing make sure you spray some WD-40 on it before laying on the wire.

The Penn 113H's (4/0) are the old ubiquitous standbys. The Penn's feel lighter (even though they weigh in at 28 oz vs. 23.6 oz for the Shimano TLD 20) and are probably easier to service than the Shimanos. But, personally, I feel the Shimano TLD 20 is a better and more substantial reel as far as "fighting feel" and comfort goes. The Shimano has a lower profile and it is smoother. The lever drag gives me a little more flexibility over the star drag system one the Penns - but that's just my preference.

The TLD is a little more money than the Penn, but worth it IMO. As far as durability goes, they haven't failed me. The TLD's have a graphite body, I dont' know if that's a plus or minus in your book. Gear ratios are in the same ballpark. The Penn 113H's are 3.25:1 where the Shimano TLD's are 3.6:1.

-WW

[bassmaster]

How to commercially fish with wire
1) when the sun comes up and they go deep Piss and moan
2) Go near middle ground and idle boat drop wire down till hit bottom
3) complain some more and kick the toilet in gear and let out the wire
4) bring it up to bouncin bottom speed and jig on dacron shot so You dont screw up wire
5) when Fish is on bring speed up to pull buss on top and surf it in on top
6) if its short throw it back and piss and moan
7) sell all Your wire line gear after U sell Your fish
aint no sport in that. Just making doe

[fishweewee]

Yeah BM, I agree dragging wire around isn't as much fun as other methods. But you have to check out the "chunk" lining technique while anchored up in a current. It's a pissah.

[bassmaster]

shot of lead core wee wee, I did that in the 80s at the ditch when I was a googan

[fishweewee]

That's EXACTLY what I'm going to try this Spring!

[bassmaster]

use 3/8ths rubber core

[Canalratt1]

SHHH...