If you were to have a week long C&R Tourney... - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JohnR · 04-13-2011, 06:48 AM

What would you do ?

Photos? Teams?

You NEED to use the honor system, how would you do it ?

chefchris401 · 04-13-2011, 07:14 AM

I'd be in

Digital pics with the date and time feature set to show up on the pix.

Fish is measured girth and length and then caluted using that formula.

Usually done in pairs, so you fish with someone you don't know.

Makes it tough cause not everyone fishes the same, wetsuit, waders or boat/kayak guys.
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Raven · 04-13-2011, 07:14 AM

minimum teams of two
so one guy can snap the photo of the other guy
with both guys having a camera
a second one to default to in case one has issues

and perhaps a tape measure stretched across
the held fish ...longest fish wins

afterhours · 04-13-2011, 07:27 AM

try to use to kiss principle. keep prizes to a minimal value to discourage cheats. photo with a tape and time/date info. teams and solo (for some fishing isn't a team sport). hold it around a good moon phase. shore, wetsuit, kayak, boat divisions. good thinking johnny!

The Dad Fisherman · 04-13-2011, 07:27 AM

Has to be a minimum of 2 man teams, needs 2 photos, 1 with tape across the fish and one with the angler holding the fish. Slips turned in require the witnesses signature. over-all length determines winner....in case of tie whoever caught theirs 1st wins....so make sure you have a date/time stamp in photos

NO Cash Prize.......

JohnR · 04-13-2011, 07:28 AM

And a smallest fish category

Everything has to be C&R. Promise of crushed barbs and sub 30 second turn around?

PRBuzz · 04-13-2011, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

And a smallest fish category

Everything has to be C&R. Promise of crushed barbs and sub 30 second turn around?

So you need a HD video of the entire C&R process??? 30 sec for pics (2) and tape showing? Including the fish going back into the water....

I'm in for smallest.

JLH · 04-13-2011, 07:35 AM

I have done a few C&R tourneys where a photo showing the length and some form of proof that the fish was caught during the tournament was required. Usually a laminated tournament card is given our at the start if the tournament and needs to be included in the pictures to verify it was caught during the tournament. You could also email something out at the start of the tournament and those entered would need to print it and either laminate it or keep in in a plastic bag or something.
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afterhours · 04-13-2011, 07:39 AM

no need for cloak and dagger- honor system. if we can't believe in this why bother?

Sea Flat · 04-13-2011, 07:39 AM

I would set it up similar to how Zeno did his C & R tourny. A picture is needed with the fish and a particular gesture etc. that shows the picture is recent. In Zeno's it was a thumbs up in the pic. It could be something simple like the "OK" sign with the fish etc. Also, it wouldn't have to be taken by another individual it could be a picture of the fish and your opposite hand in the photo. Nothing crazy, just something to avoid any accusations of cheating, liars etc.

chefchris401 · 04-13-2011, 07:40 AM

I have also seen it done in a point system.

Every inch is a point up to X length then every inch is two points over X length.

For example:

39" fish would equal 39 points

But a 44" would be 48 points
40" at 1 point an inch
4" at 2 points an inch

It is tough to get random teams cause I'm not big on sharing my spots with strangers and not everyone lives close to each other.

I like the tourney card required in the pix.

Simple prizes, plugs, terminal tackle, a few gag gifts, etc
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GattaFish · 04-13-2011, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

And a smallest fish category

Everything has to be C&R. Promise of crushed barbs and sub 30 second turn around?

I will have that category wrapped up,,,

numbskull · 04-13-2011, 07:45 AM

Low stakes, no cash.
Donated prizes.
All registered members can play.
Separate categories for boat caught, shore bait, and shore artificial.
Individual, no teams
Fork curved body length, witnessed OR photo'ed, released fish only (honor system)

tlapinski · 04-13-2011, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by afterhours

try to use to kiss principle. keep prizes to a minimal value to discourage cheats.

Better yet, remove the "prizes" all together. A simple certificate to give you little more than bragging rights. If people want prizes, hold a raffle at an awards gathering afterwards. 2 man teams would be nice, but many people fish alone. Maybe add a division for individuals and one for "teams". Make a simple 2 photo entry requirement, one holding the fish flashing the S-B gang sign and one of the measurment on the fish. Submissions to be sent to an email address and not posted during the tournament to lessen the liklihood of someone beating out the current leader by a nut hair in the final minutes.

ThrowingTimber · 04-13-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

And a smallest fish category

Thank you for keeping me in mind

Picture with tape measure. Picture of the release. Since we'd have the length amd weight data how about possibly tagging a few? I'm out of the loop on how to obtain tagging kits from the litoral society.
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tysdad115 · 04-13-2011, 08:04 AM

A picture with some form of entry card or sign is good. I dont carry a boga, but the measurement is definately possible. I fish alone alot too, would have to bribe someone to be a team..

Rob Rockcrawler · 04-13-2011, 08:43 AM

I think laying the fish flat on a tape would work for a solo angler. HAving some sort if laminated card given out just prior to the event would work to know that the picture is current. I fish alone 90% of the time so having a system where it could be done solo would be a big help. By the way "IM IN"

fishbones · 04-13-2011, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Rockcrawler

I think laying the fish flat on a tape would work for a solo angler. HAving some sort if laminated card given out just prior to the event would work to know that the picture is current. I fish alone 90% of the time so having a system where it could be done solo would be a big help. By the way "IM IN"

X's 2.
I think most people who would fish this type of C&R tourney wouldn't care too much about prizes. Bragging rights and a fun get together before and after would would be enough to get me to sign up. I think the team thing is fine, but also think people should be able to fish alone if they want to.

Next question. Is it shore only, or would there be categories for boat and kayak caught fish?

Jackbass · 04-13-2011, 08:56 AM

Agreed to an extent. Pictures of fish would need to be held in tight to body. Or along a rod so if there were any questions you would have something to scale it to.depending on the size of the tourney and the closeness of the people fishing. C@R Tourneys are the way to do it.

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no need for cloak and dagger- honor system. if we can't believe in this why bother?

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JohnR · 04-13-2011, 09:06 AM

Would be a tourney for a good cause, that I would like to enlist other sites and clubs for. Not just S-B.com and not for S-B.com

KISS is important.

The Dad Fisherman · 04-13-2011, 09:08 AM

Just remember....the more Rules/Categories you have the less simple it becomes

tysdad115 · 04-13-2011, 09:29 AM

And for the record it should not be used with the wifes "tape measure"...

this |---------------------------------------------------| is not 9 inches!

afterhours · 04-13-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Would be a tourney for a good cause, that I would like to enlist other sites and clubs for. Not just S-B.com and not for S-B.com

KISS is important.

methinks initial tourney should be sb only- gives us a chance to work out the kinks.

influx99 · 04-13-2011, 09:42 AM

Pretty much every digital camera has video capability. A video of the fish being held against a tape and then released should not be a problem.

The Dad Fisherman · 04-13-2011, 09:56 AM

Kinda funny....but now you know why people would rather just drag a fish to a local B&T and throw it on the scale.

Video taping it, flashing Gang signs.......

afterhours · 04-13-2011, 10:06 AM

again..honor system. if john, george, larry, vic, mike, etc. says they released a fish- i believe them.

RIROCKHOUND · 04-13-2011, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Kinda funny....but now you know why people would rather just drag a fish to a local B&T and throw it on the scale.

Video taping it, flashing Gang signs.......

Exactly why I usually don't bother....

piemma · 04-13-2011, 10:36 AM

I'd absolutely be in. How about trophys for 1st 2nd and 3rd. $5.00 to enter just to defer the cost of the trophys or plaques.

We did this at Thundermist Striper Club. We never has a cash award. There were enough legenday stripermen in that club that you could fill a book with the names. I was honored to have taken 2nd form the surf in 96. #^&#^&#^&#^&y Conoyer also took second in the boat division that year

It ran all season and we had a dinner with spouses at the end of the season. Never any cash or monetary prizes just a trophy or plaque. We also had the point system for the angler of the year. 1 point of each pound.
The late and great Lanny Grazini had it that year with 1800+ points. That's $*&#% load of bass!

Jackbass · 04-13-2011, 10:37 AM

I would like to think people would make the effort to honor the tournament rules particularly where it is a charity event. Winning is one thing but for the most part guys that are simply involved in a c&r tournament to benefit charity I would like to think would honor system and go about it the right way.
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Mike P · 04-13-2011, 10:54 AM

You can buy a Manley spring scale that's accurate to w/in one pound for about the price of a Sebille or Beachmaster. They're so accurate that the IGFA will pre-certify one for record submission.

Two guys from different teams get assigned as partners. They can split the cost of the scale. If someone already has one, they can be checked for accuracy with a known weight at the pre-tourney gathering.

Pictures and taping can be fudged. Scales don't lie. The non-catching partner attests to the size of the other guy's fish.

I carried one with me all last October for the local Gibbs torunament. They fit easily inside a plug bag, and they don't care about getting wet, unlike many electronic digital scales.