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Old 04-02-2015, 12:16 PM   #1
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Indiana Religious Freedom Law

I'm conservative. I'm Catholic. And I support gay marriage.

That said, I don't see hwo anyone who has ever read the Constitution, specifically the Bill Of Rights, can claim that a religious business owner doesn't have the right to refuse to participate in that which is contrary to his religiously-informed conscience.

The Bill Of Rights, while genius, is tough. Like it or not, freedom of speech means an artist can hang a painting of Christ covered in urine. Like it or not, freedom of assembly means that the Klan can hold a rally. Like it or not, freedom of the press means that the folks at MSNBC can advocate for that which I would advocate against, at the top of my lungs. And like it or not, freedom of religion means that no one can be forced to participate in that which violates their religious beliefs.

If enough people disagree with the IN law, there is a mechanism to change the constitution. Until that day, we don't get to ignore the parts of the Constitution that we don't happen to like.

And if you want to see why I reject th enotion that liberals are 1% as tolerant as they claim to be, look at the vitriol in their reaction.

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Old 04-02-2015, 02:13 PM   #2
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:19 PM   #3
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I can't imagine why you would want to eat a cake after forcing somebody to make it against their will. Seems pretty risky but I guess that goes with the territory
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Old 04-02-2015, 04:30 PM   #4
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BTW this is a totally fabricated story. It never happened.our POS media hard at work
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Of course, in the liberal traditions of inclusion and tolerance, the store had to close, people threatened to burn it down, and the pizzeria's facebook page was flooded with gay pornography. Shocking, I know.
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Old 04-03-2015, 06:07 AM   #6
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It's also worth noting, that the liberal pillars of tolerance, are targeting this pizza shop, even though they have never refused a gay wedding. A theoretical question was asked to the owners, and they said that if asked, they would feel uncomfortable working at a gay wedding, because of their religiously-informed consciences.

Cue the liberal lynch mob..."there's no room for hate in this country, so agree with me or I'll burn down your restaurant!!"

These people have no shame, and their hatred of religion knows no bounds...
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Old 04-03-2015, 06:46 AM   #7
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Religion does suck generally speaking,loaded with zealots who have no tolerance for no tolerance.
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Old 04-03-2015, 07:55 AM   #8
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I didn't know being gay was a religion.
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:29 AM   #9
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What's totally fabricated?
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Old 04-03-2015, 08:32 AM   #10
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Actually, Dangles was paying a compliment to religious zealots with his use of a double negative. No tolerance for no tolerance reverts to the positive and the no no becomes yes, that is, tolerance. That is a tricky way of saying the zealots are tolerant.
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"Religion does suck generally "

Hilarious that you could say something like that, and then claim that people of faith have no tolerance.

Religion sucks generally, hmmm...I bet that comes as news to all of our neighbors who are getting housing, food, medical care (at zero cost if they can't afford it), quality education, and adoption services, via the church.

Every poll ever done, shows that pepole of faith describe their lives as happier and more full, than secular folks.

But the hilarious part is that you would say that religion sucks, then claim that religious folks have no tolerance for others. Those Christian soup kitchens, homeless shelters, and hospitals, will gladly help anyone in need, regardless of their religious views. That's pretty tolerant, isn't it?

Ask the people who own the pizza joint, how much tolerance they are being shown by gay rights activists, at the moment...
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Can a black baker be forced to attend a Klan wedding? Or is only Christians who can be forced to participate in things against their will?

When the govenrment can force someone to attend a weding that they do not wish to go to, then at that point, we are not a free country.
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Happiness in its purest form comes from helping others. Enjoy your Easter.
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Actually, Dangles was paying a compliment to religious zealots with his use of a double negative. No tolerance for no tolerance reverts to the positive and the no no becomes yes, that is, tolerance. That is a tricky way of saying the zealots are tolerant.
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The church has demonstrated otherwise.
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Hate to inject facts into your Catholic-bashing, but maybe we should say that a tiny fraction o fthe church has demonstrated otherwise...and that a similar percentage of teachers have demonstrated otherwise, and doctors, etc...

Kudos to whoever indoctrinated you...was it Bill Maher?
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What's totally fabricated?
Why don't you tell me what's factual.M y list would be long ...when I don't see a list I'll know it's yours.
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What's totally fabricated?
I'm guessing here...but I think he might be referring to the fact, and it's fact, that the poor people who own this restaurant, never declined a gay wedding. They were asked a theoretical question about what they would do if asked to cater a gay wedding. The fact that these people have never, ever, actually done this, doesn't matter to the media of these militant, deranged activists, who descended upon these innocent pepole with visciousness and bile.

A pizza joint who has never actually been involved in this issue, is now ground zero for the crystal clear display of liberal anarchy, feral behavior, and spoiled-bratty-ness.
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I thought welfare was bad?
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Get over yourself . A double negative isn't that impressive 😊
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Damn right! And that wouldn't have been remotely necessary, if thos etolerant liberals would have precticed their motto of "live and let live". In this case, the truth is "live and let live as long as you agree with me, otherwise I will burn your business down".

I hope they get a jillion dollars. They deserve it. No evidence these people have ever done anything wrong (and as born again Christians who appear to take their religion seriously, it's a safe bet they make a habit out of helping others), yet they are being absolutely villified by the $#@!%^&%$##@ left. These activists see nothing wrong with holding a sign in one hand that says "stop the hate", and holding a brick in the other hand to throw through the window of anyone who disagrees with them. Can't make it up.
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Welfare??

It's welfare when the government gives you other people's $$ for nothing in return. Private citizens, helping one of their own through a miserable and challenging time, isn't "welfare". It's an example of "American exceptionalism". Unless Obama has outlawed that phrase...


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True. And I was joking.
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You mean bc they they said that they would discriminate?

That is hilarious.
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You mean bc they they said that they would discriminate?

That is hilarious.
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All animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others....

“It’s not up to the courts to invent new minorities that get special protections,” Antonin Scalia
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All animals are equal, some animals are more equal than others....
As in some animals (gays), are more entitled to "discriminate" than others (Christians).
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You mean bc they they said that they would discriminate?

That is hilarious.
S you would support a law that would force a black baker to serve cake at a Klan wedding?

If not, please explain why in this case, the black baker has the right to discriminate, but not the Christian baker.

Read the Bill Of Rights. It doesn't say that freedom of religion is limited to cases where no one's feelings are hurt.

The left never, ever address the only thing that matters, which is what the Bill Of Rights says. It's always about labeling the other ide as hatemongers.
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