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02-20-2004, 09:20 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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whada ya think?
i'm trying to reproduce some plugs that i own.
here's what i've done so far, only to test out the mold, so i've put no hardware inside yet.
1. built the 2 piece mold out of auto body filler.
2.cut up fiberglass matt into very sm pieces.
3.mix glass mat with figerglass resin.
4.fill mold.
and ta-dah!!!
Last edited by thefishingfreak; 02-20-2004 at 09:30 PM..
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02-20-2004, 09:23 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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quick sand with 80 grit.
solid- reinforced- fiberglass-plug.
Last edited by thefishingfreak; 02-20-2004 at 11:42 PM..
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02-20-2004, 09:26 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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last years protege'
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02-20-2004, 09:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Cranberry Coast Gateway 2 Cape Cod
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Sweet...
Jr Link
Last edited by missing link; 02-20-2004 at 10:47 PM..
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" Happy as a clam at high tide "
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02-20-2004, 09:42 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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hot out of the mold.
Last edited by thefishingfreak; 02-20-2004 at 09:48 PM..
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02-20-2004, 10:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Central Coastal NJ
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That looks great. I wanna see that with wire and paint. Good work so far. How does it compare in weight to the original?
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02-20-2004, 10:30 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: I moved.
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How do you wire them?
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Life is like a poop sandwich, the more bread you've got, the less poop you taste.
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02-20-2004, 10:43 PM
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Really Old & Really Grumpy
Join Date: Jun 2002
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that looks like it's going to be a winner 
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BOAT fish do count.
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02-20-2004, 10:52 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: PA
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Cool
Keep us posted with final results! 
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02-20-2004, 11:07 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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"how do you wire them"?
thats where i need the help.
what kind of wire?{stainless {what?...........}
yeah, i know the local welding supply house, but stainless what?
this pic was an experiment trying to make the mold out of resin
the filler was eisier to work with
Last edited by thefishingfreak; 02-21-2004 at 08:38 AM..
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02-20-2004, 11:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: PA
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I'm sure there may be a better way but how about putting wire in the mold bfore the material. Something like pooring a lead diamand jig. I use what they call a cc form do-it molds. I would try bending the wire to were it needs go and maybe add swivels or bead chain going to the hooks. 1/16 stainless.
Jigman may have some good imput here.
Looks hard to drill into that stuff 
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02-20-2004, 11:47 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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only " testing the mold".
no hardware yet.
Last edited by thefishingfreak; 02-20-2004 at 11:50 PM..
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02-20-2004, 11:58 PM
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viva the plug-o-lution
Join Date: May 2002
Location: notsob
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coooooooolllll nice 
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live to fish. fish to live. rod tips high.
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02-21-2004, 01:22 AM
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"what kind of wire?{stainless {what?...........}
yeah, i know the local welding supply house, but stainless what?"
308L STAINLESS TIG WELDING WIRE
308L seems to be what most of us use. TIG welding wire does come in a variety of grades and diameter. 304 is soft and easy to bend, 308 is a lot more stiff, but still fairly easy to work with, 316 is really stiff and a pain in the a%#, but it is really tough and holds it's shape well. Buy a few sticks of each and see what you like best.
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02-21-2004, 06:15 PM
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Cool idea  For wiring, I would do as suggested above. Set up a jig to pre-bend the wire into the shape/size needed for the mold. Insert the wire, then pour the fiberglass in. You can make the jig by hammering 10 penny nails into scrap wood and bend around these. While most of us are using the 308 or 316, you might try string wire like you would use for a spinnerbait. Yeah, a real pain to bend, but it would hold its shape better. I think you'll find that is what is used in commercial plugs with molded in thru-wire.
Jigman
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02-22-2004, 12:04 PM
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I'm not from here
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Putnam,CT
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If you use 316L welding wire, it is very high in nickle and low in carbon. It is tough to bend, but, will not rust in the salt water. Also, make sure you keep the wire clean. If you lay it on a steel bench, it will pick up carbon from the steel, and when it comes in contact with the salt water, will rust like steel wire.
If the find yourself making alot of these plugs, you might want to look into making a mold with either latex rubber reinforced with fiberglass or plaster, much like they do ceramics. Or use tooling gel coat and make a fiberglass mold. Both will hold up to production better than the bondo. The tooling gel coat giving you the best results. You should be able to pull at least 100 pieces before re-tooling
Feel free to come by the shop, I can show you the products and how to put them together.
Just my .02
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02-22-2004, 10:08 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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thanks for the feedback guys!
when i go to the shop on monday i'll try to smash the thing appart to see how strong it is. i also made one without the fiber matt inside to test.
the nice one in the pic is an older plug , all i did was just paint it.
as far as the weight of the original it's about the same, but the original has extra weight in the chin, so i'll have to incorparate about two ounces in the chin of the plug. maybe a little more weight will help it dive deeper witch is not a problem for me.
thanks for the tip of making a jig with nails to bend the wire! i was wondering how i was going to get the wire in the same place on every plug.
i want this to be very strong as it will be the little brother of the ones i trully intend to make.{about 10-12 inches} the wire in the original is very strong, i couldn't even cut it with a big pair of snap-on dykes,i had to use small bolt cutters.
when i get one wired i'll take a comealong to it and try to rip it apart.
and when i find the combo i like, i'll take it down to the river and see how she swims.
and then start the production.
the new plugs sell for upwards of 60 bucks, and this should keep me out of trouble for a while 
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03-09-2004, 11:16 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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production update
here's the wire, and the lead.
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03-09-2004, 11:17 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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fresh out of the mold.
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03-09-2004, 11:18 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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ta dahhh..
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03-10-2004, 08:10 AM
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viva the plug-o-lution
Join Date: May 2002
Location: notsob
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that looks awsome! 
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live to fish. fish to live. rod tips high.
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03-10-2004, 12:53 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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not much "work" going on at the shop today 
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03-10-2004, 12:53 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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john doyle's plug
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03-10-2004, 12:59 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Looks great!
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-10-2004, 06:44 PM
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REDNECK Plugger
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: East end L.I.
Posts: 309
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OMG!
I send you Pikies...you mold them!
Nice job...something different!
Are you trolling these? Casting? They gotta weigh close to 4oz right?
Again...very inventive! 
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Hank
LIBBA 1838
MSA 905
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03-10-2004, 07:02 PM
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Plug Paladin
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Jackson, N.J.
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Nice paint job.
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03-10-2004, 07:04 PM
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Registered User
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Nice paint! Pretty ingenious.
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03-10-2004, 07:07 PM
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Authoritaah
Join Date: May 2003
Location: attleboro MA
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holy crap dude-faaaantastic
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Is it good, or is it Sofa King good?
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03-10-2004, 07:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Cranberry Coast Gateway 2 Cape Cod
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That is CRAZY!!!!!!!.. looks sweet!!!!!..very very good plan for the mold!!
Jr Link
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" Happy as a clam at high tide "
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03-10-2004, 09:44 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
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thanks for the help guys!
great.... one more thing i'm getting hooked on, making lures!
i made four more of these high speed trolling plugs today, i'll put up some pics when i get them painted.
i'm making molds of roberts ranger"style" lures next.
mike d.
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