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05-13-2004, 10:36 AM
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Location: Portsmouth RI
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Accurate Pliers
Accurate Pliers
"Our most exciting new product for the 2004 Season, the Accurate Ultimate Offshore Fishing Pliers will change the standard by which all gamefishing pliers are measured. Constructed of lightweight, anodized aluminum and featuring heat-treated & AccuCoated 440C stainless steel jaws and side cutters (both replaceable), there is simply no better value in a pair of pliers on the market today!"
7" Accurate Ultimate Pliers Retail $139.99
8" Accurate Ultimate Pliers Retail $149.99
Yahoo! 
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05-13-2004, 11:19 AM
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Location: Rhode Island
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Who wholesales them?
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05-13-2004, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: RI
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Re: Accurate Pliers
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tattoo
[B]Accurate Pliers
the Accurate Ultimate Offshore Fishing Pliers will change the standard by which all gamefishing pliers are measured.there is simply no better value in a pair of pliers on the market today!"
7" Accurate Ultimate Pliers Retail $139.99
8" Accurate Ultimate Pliers Retail $149.99
At those prices they certainly will set a standard.The "VanStaal"
of pliers.I guess I'll always be an AceHardware pliers kinda a guy.
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05-13-2004, 11:46 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Outer Banks NC, Charlestown RI
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I can buy 27 pairs of the cheapo pliers I use for the cost of one of these  . I think it might take me awhile to lose or have 27 of them rust out on me....
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05-13-2004, 12:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Portsmouth RI
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Depending on your view, these pliers may or may not fit your needs. Some people opt to go the less expensive route and go through 5 pairs or 10 pliers a year, other people would rather go the more expensive route and get something that will hold up.
Personally I have not found a pair of in expensive pliers that last. JobLot versions rust FAST and the cutters couldnt cut a stick of butter never mind 65lb braid. Dr. Slicks are good for about a weeks worth of fishing, then you can throw them out because they turn into a pair of kindergarten scissors, Manley needle nose pliers are better than Dr. Slicks, but the cutter part does not last long and trying to sharpen the cutter only makes things worse. Never tried the Shimano's but I think they would be in the same ballpark.
With tools, you get what you pay for.
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05-13-2004, 01:01 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Heres a good plier thread
Ill still like my Joblots. About 2 a year, and never had trouble cutting hooks. Id prefer a wider jaw surface but...
I bought a pair of Manleys and the cutter went dead after one hook  POS
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05-13-2004, 01:05 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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its about what your willing to pay for. I dont find the minor advantage worth the extra $130, but thats JMO.
Thats what I said about a $150 plugbag, but I really want an Aquaskinz or VS bag now 
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05-13-2004, 01:08 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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The cutting jaws look replaceable. Are they?
Not that it would matter for me---I'd probably lose them before they wear out anyway.
Manley must have changed the cutting jaw material since the last pair I bought about 15 years ago. Mine don't cut mono any more but they still cut the shank on a 4/0 Mustad treble. Or maybe mine are Sargents 
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05-13-2004, 01:10 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: North River
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I soaked my $3 job lots in liquid wrench at the end of last season.
just like new  As far as cutting mono wouldn't a knife be a better tool anyway.
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05-13-2004, 01:25 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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The manley have a 1/16 gap when closed now after 1 hook. They're useless. And they damaged the cutter
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05-13-2004, 01:26 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,990
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OOoooh, look I broke 1000 posts  Only took 3 years 
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05-13-2004, 01:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
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Not a bad price when you consider the VanStaal pliers are like 240 if you can find them.
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05-13-2004, 01:49 PM
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I am in the same boat as tattoo with pliers. I seem to go thru about 5+ per year as well. I bought some "stainless steel" pliers from someone at the SB show...they were like 15 bucks and looked good. They must have been the cheapest SS pliers in the world. By the 4 trip they were pretty rusted. By the 6th trip I couldn't use them with one hand and I thru them overboard. Dr. slicks...are good for one or two trip...way to light, aimed at the FW river flycaster IMO cutting 2# tippets, I tried cutting some twisted briaded wire and the cutters took an indent. The Cheppo hardware stores rust befor you can get them out of the shrink wrap and your right about the job lot ones these seem to seize on me by the second outing.
So last season I picked up a pair similar to what you have shown (Donmars in stainless). They actually lasted a season and I left them on the boat exposed. But they cost me like 169 and I am afraid to drop them overboard and always keep the teather on. I have to say they work very nicely but they are too expensive. They told me if anything *ever* has a probelm and for 35 bucks they will either repair or replace them. I know of two folks that sent them in for a minor thing and they sent back new ones.
Problem is I need more then one pair of pliers...I need like 4 (beach/truck/couple for the boat) so last year I picked up several shimano's @17 bucks ea. They have a Ti coating and seem to last a little longer then bare steel. And when you drop them over the side you don't feel the pain in your wallet, you take out another pair.
http://www.capecodtackle.com/Merchan...8_00_MISC+MISC
While it is nice to have these great costly donmar pliers, you need more then one.
I want to look into these new "floating pliers" that people say can cut braid like butter. They are cheap too.
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05-13-2004, 02:51 PM
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I've had good luck with a pair of pliers I bought made by Rapala. I keep them on the boat and spray with WD40 every now and then. I mostly only cut mono with them, but guess they would be junk after cutting a hook.
Maybe it would be better to carry a small set of bolt cutters for cutting hooks? I've seen tlapinski with a really small set of those. Looked good for cutting a hook imedded in a hand in an emergency. Practical on a boat, but maybe not so good for wading..
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05-13-2004, 03:05 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
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I have the donmars in steel, not titanium, they cost under 100 and have replaceable cutters. They also fit perrfect in the new Aquaskinz small surf bag. Anyway I like them.
Slapshot is dead on with the Rapala's. The are metal and black with a very hard rubber handle. A decent size needle nose and they have a split ring thingy on the end of one needle that is an awesome little feature when removing hooks from hands, clothes, and oh yeah, fish.
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
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05-13-2004, 03:12 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I have new Van Staals......
and I love them, don't care much about the price tag....fact is....they will last me a dang long time!  To each his own I guess.
Oh look....I just posted my 3000th post....  ....and it only took me about 14 months...  ..... 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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05-13-2004, 06:10 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Southeastern MA
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I bought a cheap pair of pakistani ss pliers while on vaca for 10.00 and the next day saw some of the Shimano Titaniums with the rubber grip for 17.00 as I was not happy at all with the cutters on the pakistini cutters. I almost put the Shimano's back thinking I could get by a couple days with the cheapo ss model. I am very happy I bought the Shimano's after all. The cutters have worked well for my needs but I admit not cutting braid with them that often and never hook wire. They did require a couple drops of 3 in 1 on the hinge but have worked well since. I like them better than the Manley's that cost me more.
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05-13-2004, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
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The Saltwater Edge will have both sizes of the new Accurate Pliers shortly along with the Calcutta 400 and 700 sized Boss Magnums, both of which are now available as high-speed models.
Later this summer when they are released we will also have the new Accurate Spinning Reel as well as the upcoming levelwind Boss Magnums.
I've had my hands on a pre-release Spinning Reel, it's approximately the size of a VS250. It's got the Twin Drag from Accurate's offshore reels so it should be able to stop almost anything.
As for the pliers, only time will tell but they look and feel really nice out of the box. They cut thru every size of Power-Pro I had on hand with very little pressure. And they can definitely cut thru hooks.
Pete
The Saltwater Edge
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05-13-2004, 07:48 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 7,557
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those pliers look like vs pliers, I bet the cutters will dull right out just like the VS one do
Tattoo, I sent both the 150s in
I killed one it grinds and the other likes peeing all over the place
call my cell 2morrow 508 654 9897
wonder what the accurate reels look like?
twin drag who needs that, hope there not priced High like the vs reels
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Pro Tool Club....
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05-13-2004, 08:15 PM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
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[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Pete_G
Later this summer when they are released we will also have the new Accurate Spinning Reel ...
[QUOTE]
What is the Acu-spin going to sell for?
_Zac_
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i bent my wookie
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05-14-2004, 07:25 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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I dunno, I must be gettin' thrifty in my old age - but I think I've finally begun to recognize the difference between what I need and what I want.
Yup, Job Lot , Krispy. Got a good pair of titanium coated needlenose for like $5 I've gotten two seasons out of so far 
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05-14-2004, 08:54 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NY
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I have Manley Needle Nose pliers. They have held up well but my problem is that I cant get a lanyard around them.
I tried drilling a hole in these pliers and the drill could not even SCRATCH them!
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05-14-2004, 09:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: MA - Ol' New England - USA
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Those Manley's are chromed - you need to dimple the surface with a sharp punch before you can drill thru it. What I did with my Manley's is use a big snap swivel in the small hole near the return spring then attach my cord to that.
I found a pair of small Sargent side cutters (Rostra Tool out of CT makes them now) that were stainless steel with a leather sheath back in the mid 70s. They look very similar to the Manleys - best little cutters I have. I got the Manley's because there design was similar. No stopping rust with things in the ocean.
How come the plier companies don't use stellite, or talonite inserts?? They would be $, but they would never rust and require almost no sharpening for many seasons.
I have a pair of the medium sized 850 Donnmar/Checkpoints - not crazy about them - relatively light so they don't pull my shorts down.....lol.
The Fiskar kids sissors cut braid like butter - cost under $3.50 so you can buy a few pairs and keep them all over. Been using those for a few yrs now. Otherwise its a sharp knife. 
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Ray 'md2020'
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05-14-2004, 10:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NY
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I have a pair of those Sargents also.
The Manleys I have are 8" needlenose. They are solid and void of any holes. The handles are like freakin' kryptonite. Nothing will penetrate! Maybe I can tighten some copper wire around the rubber handle grip. It wont look to nice but it should help from me losing the plies I hope.
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05-14-2004, 10:12 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: MA - Ol' New England - USA
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If you have a Dremel tool - you can dimple the surface that way and then drill thru it.
PN: send them to me if you want a hole drilled in them (mark the spot/spots ). You just have to pay for shipping one way. 
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Ray 'md2020'
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05-14-2004, 10:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NY
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Here are the Problem Pliers
I took rubber off to show the thin metal underneath which appears "bulletproof".
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05-14-2004, 10:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: MA - Ol' New England - USA
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u got pm, PN.
blah - thin metal not a problem. Those Manley's aren't parallel side cutters....lol.  Duh - no wonder why u posted a pic.
Those Cabelas ones look like the Shimano ones I use at work. I wonder who makes them for Shimano. 
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