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Plug Building - Got Wood? Got Plug? |
View Poll Results: Do you test your swimming plugs bfore painting them?
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Yes, absolutely. I need to know that they will swim incase I have to change the weighting.
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Yes, just double checking on plugs that I have made before and know they worked before.
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No, I just wing it
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No, I have it down pat and they usually work after they are all done
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no, I don't have to because I am that good.
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wait 3 years and copy BM
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no place to test them so I float/wait and test on fish
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01-01-2005, 12:40 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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poll on testing
just informational
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01-01-2005, 01:37 PM
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#2
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Yup!
I test my plugs before I make a bunch, otherwise I am wasting my time. The Green Death plug I made and gave as a gift to two of my buddies, as I said before, had not been water tested yet.....however, I have a proto and will be swimming it before I make any more.  In fact, funny you posted this, with the nice warm day I was outside making a couple of proto's of plugs I was hoping to use this season  Good thread Slip! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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01-01-2005, 01:44 PM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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i just wing it
all of my stuff is you guysez' blanks.
so if they dont swim it's your fault 
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01-01-2005, 01:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 5,945
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I won't say they ALL , get tested, I test the proto, fine tune it as needed, then I wll copy as many of those that I plan on making, weight and set them up the same as the proto.
I winged it a couple of times, and live to regret it.
good thread, Slip.
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01-01-2005, 01:55 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I had one batch of 10" needle (about 6) that I labored over and they were dogs.....had to re-weight them and what a pain, so I know what you mean Karl!  Live and learn! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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01-01-2005, 01:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Kentucky
Posts: 1,442
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I thoroughly test the proto-types before I make up a bunch. The protos don't get paint. Well, they get a coat of primer and a line down the back from a sharpie so I can better see the action, but no fancy paint jobs. After I've gotten the action down, I'll make a template, and turn a few. Those are tested before paint. After that, usually just go ahead and paint without testing. I'll test cast them a few times before fishing them in case they need some final tweaking.
Jigman
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01-01-2005, 02:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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I test some.. and some I dont bother with if I know its going to swim... On the batch of darters i just made, I painted and will clearcoat with out testing and any that dont swim are going in the trash... I need the practice with painting and clearcoating so thats why i chose to do it that way 
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01-01-2005, 02:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
Posts: 1,142
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I plan on testing the prototype of whatever I am making and get it so that it does what I want before I turn a bunch. Once the protype works, I'll make up a bunch of them and feel confidant that they all will fish.
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01-01-2005, 02:17 PM
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Stuck In Reality
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Holden MA
Posts: 4,519
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Eben I will take your trash. 
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Go Ugly Early
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01-01-2005, 02:46 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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01-01-2005, 02:47 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jigman
I thoroughly test the proto-types before I make up a bunch. The protos don't get paint. Well, they get a coat of primer and a line down the back from a sharpie so I can better see the action, but no fancy paint jobs. After I've gotten the action down, I'll make a template, and turn a few. Those are tested before paint. After that, usually just go ahead and paint without testing. I'll test cast them a few times before fishing them in case they need some final tweaking.
Jigman
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NICE 
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01-01-2005, 03:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Norwell, MA
Posts: 180
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I test prototypes in my "test tank" (actually it is a brook in my back yard), until I get the action I am looking for. Then I take the prototypes down to the North River where I can test them in different types of current. When all the tinkering is done, reweighting, reshaping lips etc, the prototypes that don't pan out get chucked, and the ones that do get patched up and painted/repainted and end up in my plug bag. Usually I make even my prototypes from a duplicator template so that if they work out, I have an accurate template all done. I keep a record on the template specifying dimensions, location and size of holes, weights etc, so that when I make a batch they are as close to the final prototype as possible. In most cases I don't test every plug, at least not until I am out on the water and fine tune them. Some types of plugs such as popping plugs are very forgiving as most of the action comes from the guy holding the rod. Swimming plugs rely heavily on the design of the plug, and a really bad plug is hard to make work. I don't sell, and I tune those plugs that I will be giving to individuals who don't know how. I find that almost any wooden plug, and many plastic ones, need tuning to get optimum performance. Even soft baits need to be rigged exactingly to get their best performance.
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fishing bum wannabe
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01-01-2005, 04:29 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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test, yes but if its a plug I've got a good sense for, ie. working from one I've made and am happy how it moves I wont test.
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Domination takes full concentration..
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01-01-2005, 04:54 PM
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Plug Paladin
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Jackson, N.J.
Posts: 1,132
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I test at a lake until it freezes.
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01-01-2005, 06:54 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Warren Vt
Posts: 668
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i don,t test mine, i leave that to the guys that know how to catch fish.LOL. not having acess to the right conditions to test my plugs all winter. i usually just float them to see how they float. i like to test my plugs with fish, as long as they float or sink right side upi give them a shot.i think the only way to tell if a plug swims right is to catch fish on them. a plug can have all the right moves but if it doesn't catch what good is it?
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01-01-2005, 07:05 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Hard aground
Posts: 1,362
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Like some mentioned here I also like to get the proto correct b4 making a batch.
The plug cant roll over and for me at least it needs to throw into the wind.
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01-01-2005, 07:50 PM
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Canceled
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: vt
Posts: 13,425
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My protos are yellow 
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01-01-2005, 09:19 PM
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Dave's Guide Service
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 7,557
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I test my plugs on fish for a year or two or three
why make something that aint gonna catch.....................
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01-02-2005, 09:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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I wait 2 0r 3 yrs then I copie BM"s plugs.I didn't see that one on the poll. 
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01-02-2005, 10:43 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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it's right there, what are you blind 
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01-02-2005, 11:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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Quote:
Originally posted by Slipknot
it's right there, what are you blind
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Geeze , I must be missed that totally. No wonder the kids used to laugh a me . Testing is another skill that I've got to learn. What may look like pissa action to me may be fugly to others 
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01-02-2005, 11:36 AM
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Salt of the Earth
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Suburbia, RI
Posts: 1,025
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i take measurements from plugs i'm going to copy, only testing is done is a float test in the sink, after that they get tested on the fish. 
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01-02-2005, 12:04 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Sack Of Mass
Posts: 2,357
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Where's the all of the above button? I test e'm sometimes, float sometimes, wing it sometimes... some plugs I have down pat and yes I even copy BM and a bunch of you other bastages as well  ... but mine work better  . Depends on what I'm making I guess.
-Dave
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01-02-2005, 12:30 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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Actually I don't use a duplicator.Sometimes I like to put a piece of on the lathe an see where it takes me.Turning is the fun part.paintinting is also fun.For me.I go crazy with paints.So I go down to marina an test em in the backwaters then I'll go 1 block to the beach an see how they fair in the enviroment they are ment to be used.sometimes if I feel confident they'll work I seal em up first.or if they are made out of a wood i don't want to get wet I seal em..other times i just rigg em up without sealing.for the most part I check most the plugs i make before I go any further.I got a hole roll of crappy thin soft wire i use for this an I take the hooks an bend the points in so they don' mar the plugs.i got cups of old hooks connnected to swivels an split rings an grommets an old hardware i save for this. an i go down with a box of stuff an make some notes so i can remember what works best.I seem to make similar designs that require similar hardware i guess to keep things simple.
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01-02-2005, 12:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: jerseyshore
Posts: 4,949
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Now I can't vote because of some blockin thing with my norton but if i had to It would definetly be the one that says No I don't have to i'm that good. 
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