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12-31-2004, 07:02 PM
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Which one...
swam the best?
Finally got these to a point where I could test for swimability.
I put the appropriate lead next to each plug so you could see how its weighted also wrote on the plug the lip used. Hook size listed too.
4 3/4" long 1.5oz-ish
What do you think, which one swam the best/worst?
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12-31-2004, 07:05 PM
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i will say middle swam best. 
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12-31-2004, 07:07 PM
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bottom one?
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12-31-2004, 07:08 PM
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Re: Which one...
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Originally posted by PNG
What do you think, which one swam the best/worst?
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Depends on the action you are after  I'm guessing the one with the blade on the back swam worst. Blade would likely kill the action. Any reason for the tail weights? They tend to kill the action of a swimmer type plug.
Jigman
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12-31-2004, 07:14 PM
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I'm guessing middle, but like jigman said, why the tailweight?
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12-31-2004, 07:17 PM
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fishing in the weather
I knew I'd get you guys with this
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12-31-2004, 07:19 PM
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OK, .... so which swam the best 
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12-31-2004, 07:31 PM
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i'd say bottom one swims best?
middle ones lip looks to big for short plug no tailhook so i think you gave up on that one.
top ones loop is bent way down , looks like needs too much tuning?
but i'm a plug dork, just guessing?
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12-31-2004, 07:46 PM
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this is easy.. the one in the middle swam the best because there is no tailhook to slow the wiggle. I bet the top one looked teh sexiest though with the bucktail swishng behind the plug.
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12-31-2004, 08:44 PM
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Nice PNG, Tail weights do Work.
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12-31-2004, 08:56 PM
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Your thinking now....
FF good "catch" on the loop
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12-31-2004, 09:06 PM
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top one.
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12-31-2004, 09:34 PM
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I'll guess the bottom one also.
I can see the reason to use tail weight, but that seems like a good hunk of lead Chris. Never saw a flaptail danny before.
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12-31-2004, 09:39 PM
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I'm also going to stick with the middle one because it has a danny lip, which helps the plug wiggle more than a lefty lip with those tailweights.. 
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12-31-2004, 10:28 PM
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Keep the guesses coming....
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I bet the top one looked teh sexiest though with the bucktail swishng behind the plug.
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Anytime something swishng behind a plug its sexy
Its all about the curves
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12-31-2004, 11:04 PM
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Top one swam best....lead slug in belly forward of the belly treble! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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01-01-2005, 09:26 AM
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the one that puts fish on the beach or boat will swim the best. an injured baitfish doesn't always swim the best.
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01-01-2005, 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by l.i.fish.in.vt
the one that puts fish on the beach or boat will swim the best. an injured baitfish doesn't always swim the best.
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good reply. I like it 
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01-01-2005, 10:45 AM
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#2 best-- med size belly weight centerd and enough to counter balance tail weight.
#3 worst--center belly weight to light to counter tail,plus like Jigman said.
But then again,what do i know 
Great exercise PNG,Thanks 
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01-01-2005, 04:51 PM
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I'll guess middle,,only because it has the biggest lip to help wiggle that giant arse weight .. 
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01-01-2005, 05:09 PM
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And the answer is the TOP one.
Middle the worst and bottom OK.
While I do not presume to have all the answers I can "guess"as to why.
One thing I did not do was enough testing on them (hook placement/size etc) so maybe all could have ended up swimming.
Top one - I think swam good cause of the big belly weight/siwash hook. Belly weight reduced roll. Tail hook seems to add drag. Good lip lefty 1.
Middle - Poor. Way to much roll. Wrong lip, to big no tail drag, not enough belly weight.
Bottom - OK. Could have benefitted from a bigger belly weight.
Changing the body shape, using a fair amount of stern/belly lead will give you a bigger "S" swim.
All belly weights are behind the treble.
As far as flap dannies try opposing blades on the stern & different sizes. They rattle. I would do this only if you have 2 trebles or if it is a small plug like the ones shown.
Oh yah the type of wood used plays a huge part so experiment!
Thanks for participating
Chris
Last edited by PNG; 01-01-2005 at 05:14 PM..
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01-01-2005, 08:14 PM
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That was a great learning post PNG 
As for my answers,i'm eating crow for dinner tonite 
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01-01-2005, 08:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by justplugit
That was a great learning post PNG
As for my answers,i'm eating crow for dinner tonite
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me too 
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01-01-2005, 09:01 PM
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Its not about eating crow its about learning from someone elses trials & putting them to good use 
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01-01-2005, 11:15 PM
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thanks for sharing PNG
i think we all leared something
i did
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01-02-2005, 12:23 AM
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"Fishbucket"
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make that learned 
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01-02-2005, 09:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by PNG
... its about learning from someone elses trials & putting them to good use
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 Good stuff, thanks for sharing.
Jigman
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01-02-2005, 09:16 AM
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One for the book
I've printed this one and put it inmy notebooK. Loved it!
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01-03-2005, 12:23 PM
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Great post! I've been trying to get that "S" action for a while, but always assumed the tail weight would kill the action. Once again, one of my assumptions was wrong.
Just curious, how heavy are the tail weights?
Thanks for the tips!
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