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Old 12-31-2004, 07:02 PM   #1
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Which one...

swam the best?

Finally got these to a point where I could test for swimability.

I put the appropriate lead next to each plug so you could see how its weighted also wrote on the plug the lip used. Hook size listed too.

4 3/4" long 1.5oz-ish

What do you think, which one swam the best/worst?
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:05 PM   #2
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i will say middle swam best.

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Old 12-31-2004, 07:07 PM   #3
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bottom one?
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:08 PM   #4
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Re: Which one...

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What do you think, which one swam the best/worst?
Depends on the action you are after I'm guessing the one with the blade on the back swam worst. Blade would likely kill the action. Any reason for the tail weights? They tend to kill the action of a swimmer type plug.

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Old 12-31-2004, 07:14 PM   #5
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I'm guessing middle, but like jigman said, why the tailweight?
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:17 PM   #6
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why the tailweight?
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:19 PM   #7
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OK, .... so which swam the best
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Old 12-31-2004, 07:31 PM   #8
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i'd say bottom one swims best?
middle ones lip looks to big for short plug no tailhook so i think you gave up on that one.
top ones loop is bent way down , looks like needs too much tuning?
but i'm a plug dork, just guessing?

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Old 12-31-2004, 07:46 PM   #9
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this is easy.. the one in the middle swam the best because there is no tailhook to slow the wiggle. I bet the top one looked teh sexiest though with the bucktail swishng behind the plug.
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Old 12-31-2004, 08:44 PM   #10
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Nice PNG, Tail weights do Work.

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Old 12-31-2004, 08:56 PM   #11
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Your thinking now....

FF good "catch" on the loop
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Old 12-31-2004, 09:06 PM   #12
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Old 12-31-2004, 09:34 PM   #13
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I'll guess the bottom one also.
I can see the reason to use tail weight, but that seems like a good hunk of lead Chris. Never saw a flaptail danny before.
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Old 12-31-2004, 09:39 PM   #14
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I'm also going to stick with the middle one because it has a danny lip, which helps the plug wiggle more than a lefty lip with those tailweights..
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Old 12-31-2004, 10:28 PM   #15
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Keep the guesses coming....

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I bet the top one looked teh sexiest though with the bucktail swishng behind the plug.
Anytime something swishng behind a plug its sexy

Its all about the curves
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Old 12-31-2004, 11:04 PM   #16
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Top one swam best....lead slug in belly forward of the belly treble!

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Old 01-01-2005, 09:26 AM   #17
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the one that puts fish on the beach or boat will swim the best. an injured baitfish doesn't always swim the best.
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Old 01-01-2005, 09:33 AM   #18
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the one that puts fish on the beach or boat will swim the best. an injured baitfish doesn't always swim the best.
good reply. I like it
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Old 01-01-2005, 10:45 AM   #19
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#2 best-- med size belly weight centerd and enough to counter balance tail weight.
#3 worst--center belly weight to light to counter tail,plus like Jigman said.

But then again,what do i know
Great exercise PNG,Thanks

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Old 01-01-2005, 04:51 PM   #20
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I'll guess middle,,only because it has the biggest lip to help wiggle that giant arse weight ..
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:09 PM   #21
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And the answer is the TOP one.

Middle the worst and bottom OK.

While I do not presume to have all the answers I can "guess"as to why.

One thing I did not do was enough testing on them (hook placement/size etc) so maybe all could have ended up swimming.

Top one - I think swam good cause of the big belly weight/siwash hook. Belly weight reduced roll. Tail hook seems to add drag. Good lip lefty 1.

Middle - Poor. Way to much roll. Wrong lip, to big no tail drag, not enough belly weight.

Bottom - OK. Could have benefitted from a bigger belly weight.

Changing the body shape, using a fair amount of stern/belly lead will give you a bigger "S" swim.

All belly weights are behind the treble.

As far as flap dannies try opposing blades on the stern & different sizes. They rattle. I would do this only if you have 2 trebles or if it is a small plug like the ones shown.

Oh yah the type of wood used plays a huge part so experiment!

Thanks for participating

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Old 01-01-2005, 08:14 PM   #22
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That was a great learning post PNG
As for my answers,i'm eating crow for dinner tonite

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That was a great learning post PNG
As for my answers,i'm eating crow for dinner tonite
me too
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Old 01-01-2005, 09:01 PM   #24
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Its not about eating crow its about learning from someone elses trials & putting them to good use
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Old 01-01-2005, 11:15 PM   #25
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thanks for sharing PNG
i think we all leared something
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... its about learning from someone elses trials & putting them to good use
Good stuff, thanks for sharing.

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Old 01-02-2005, 09:16 AM   #28
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One for the book

I've printed this one and put it inmy notebooK. Loved it!
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Old 01-03-2005, 12:23 PM   #29
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Great post! I've been trying to get that "S" action for a while, but always assumed the tail weight would kill the action. Once again, one of my assumptions was wrong.

Just curious, how heavy are the tail weights?

Thanks for the tips!

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