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Old 12-26-2004, 08:27 AM   #1
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Question New Browning pliers

has anyone seen these in person yet? i am looking to replace my Donnmars this winter. i already know a lot of you guys favor the $3 job lot specials, but they don't match my yuppy reels.
i like that you can buy replacement cutters for these for $4.99.

Constructed from superior 17/4 stainless steel with titanium coating, these "all business" pliers from Browning are perfect for any angler. Integrates rubberized hand grips on spring-loaded handles for precision work and replaceable tungsten alloy cutters--perfect for mono, braid or wire. Includes a rugged nylon sheath and coil lanyard. Size: 7"
$49.99

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Old 12-26-2004, 10:32 AM   #2
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those look sweet.. I might have to get one
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Old 12-26-2004, 10:49 AM   #3
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Pliers =who uses pliers & for what ???????????////

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Old 12-26-2004, 11:33 AM   #4
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Pliers =who uses pliers & for what ???????????////
Well, mostly for removing hooks from toothy critters like...well, BLOOOFISH, for instance.


"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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Old 12-26-2004, 12:45 PM   #5
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Ya Clamma,and you can use them for all the routine maitenance you do on all your @$#%^& equipment

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Old 12-26-2004, 01:46 PM   #6
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"Titanium coating over stainless steel??? HUH??? I better go back to school!

These pliers may be fine but the "titanium coating over stainless steel" sounds goofy to me.

There are scores of different alloys of stainless steel (all displaying different properties) and some are much better than others for use in a saltwater environment. I'd choose pliers made with with the right type of stainless steel and forget about any coatings on the pliers.
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Old 12-26-2004, 02:24 PM   #7
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BLOOOOOOOOOOOfish //baseball bat & M-80//

maintanance //what the @#$% is that --- I thought it was like paper plates =throw them away & start the @#$% over

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Old 12-26-2004, 02:37 PM   #8
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Nice, Im gonna pick up a pair of those
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Old 12-26-2004, 03:31 PM   #9
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krispy, so far bass pro is the only place i have found them. i will be ordering a pair for sure!

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Old 12-26-2004, 05:12 PM   #10
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They look interesting...After you get them let us know what you think.

I have donmars too and I don't carry them on my surf belt anymore...I keep them on the boat. They are well built, don't rust but I don't like the sissor type cutters much. But they do hold up.

I have been using several $15-25 pliers (shimano type) with those holdzit (oil cases). These work great. I don't wear one on my belt but keep them on my boat pliers and I have a couple in my garage and place my surf pliers in them from time to time. I can get thru the season no problem now. It keeps the salt off the them and soaks them in wd40 continously. It is amazing, if you forget to put them in the case for a trip or two then next time you go to use them they are stiff as hell and rusting. These cases are good esp for cheap pliers.

I would like to carry a real nice pair on my surf belt with a pair of kick ass cutters but after losing a pair once I resulted to half way decent pilers that require these holdzits.

http://www.holdzit.com/products2.html

I first saw them while fishing on a friends boat and he had a big pair of cutters that he got at the hardware store in the blue-water holdzits. If you ever had one of these heavy steel cutters on your boat you can almost watch them rust. These rubberized holdzits bath your tool in oil and keep the elements off of them.
Since then I bought a bunch of them...even got one in my stocking

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Old 12-26-2004, 05:35 PM   #11
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I have donmars too and I don't carry them on my surf belt anymore...I keep them on the boat. They are well built, don't rust but I don't like the sissor type cutters much. But they do hold up.
my main complaint about the donmars is the cutter. it worked for about 7 cuts, now it won't even cut mono. i am going to send mine back for the replacement cutters. i did this last year, and for like $15 i got a brand new pair. i have the CP950's. probably sell them when i get the new replacement pair.

a friend of mine has the holdzit for his pliers. he likes it, but it is real hard to get the pliers in and out with one hand. he might just have the wrong size, though.

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Old 12-26-2004, 07:20 PM   #12
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Toby,

The Donnmar 850 EX and other Donnmar pliers have a hard, long lasting anvil-type cutting edge. My pair still cuts mono and braid (and fish tags) after 8 seasons.

However, according to the manufacturer's literature the 950 series Donnmar pliers have a different cutting design. That's probably the source of your discontent with Donnmar pliers. Don't know why manufacturers screw up a proven design, but they do.

I wear model 850 EX Donnmar pliers on my wader belt in the velcro opened sheaf provided. At times these pliers seem too short for removing hooks from the maws of a rambunctous toothy bluefish. Otherwise they hold up well in the surf and I'm able to use them with one hand.

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Old 12-26-2004, 09:27 PM   #13
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I used the shimano coated pliers for a few yrs there cutters work great.so i guess in a moment of I need more fishin tackle this yr i got a pair of the Don-mars.i was gettin em pretty good on evening an i wanted to cut the siwash hook of the tail of a plug an just leave the bucktail around the eyelet.an i was very disappointed when the cutters broke on 4/0 mustad.i could have got through the hook with my 5 dollar cheapo's.how do they make a product that sells for 100 dollars an bother to put cutters on em that break under minimal stress.U know the regular needles worked great for me for yrs with alittle oil every now an then.I mainly bought the more expensive ones cause the had a hole for the lanyard.so i didn't have to tape the cord to the handle.It went against many of my basic KISS beliefs an had me feelin like a jerk who had been had.
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:37 AM   #14
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NIB, call the company. they should replace the pliers for the "service fee" of $15. like i said earlier, i was given a brand new pair last year when i sent mine in. i had made roughly the same mistake too.

the 850's do have a better cutter than the 950's. one of my fishing partners has had a pir for the past 3 or 4 seasons, and they still cut braid like butter.

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Old 12-27-2004, 07:56 AM   #15
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$50 seems like a reasonable price point. I might have to investigate further.
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Old 12-27-2004, 02:48 PM   #16
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I was looking into those as well.

I just wish someone local had them, I would love to put my hands on a pair before I order. I would also prefer my cash go to a local merchant.

any chance you are getting some in MikeCC

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Old 12-27-2004, 03:26 PM   #17
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I hope Cabelas starts carrying them too, then I can get a pair with my points
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Old 12-27-2004, 03:48 PM   #18
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I got 250 points from Cabelas for christmas what should i get.I think I make a trip to the one in penn. this winter.
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Old 12-28-2004, 12:20 PM   #19
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Rusty fishing tools

Mr. Sandman, thanks for the nice words about my products, I'm the owner of HoldZit and noticed that people from this board were coming to the HoldZit web site to read about the products.

tiapinski, your friend that has to use two hands to remove his pliers might have the wrong sized pliers in the holster, or it's still in the "break in state" The holsters need to be used for a while before they work smoothly, kind of like a leather holster. The big difference between leather holsters and HoldZit holsters is that the HoldZit holster will never crack or dry out, salt water will not affect it, and they help stop any tool from rusting. We have people tell us that they've been using the same cheap steel pair of pliers for over 15 years with out having to replace them or the HoldZit Tool Saver holster.

Again, thanks for the kind words about the products and have a happy HoldZit holiday.

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Here we go again.

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Not yet - this one gets a pass (for now) as he straddles the wafer thin border of spamming. He didn't broach the subject to induce spam, he was tickled to come over and held just short of (in the voice of Jon Lovitz) SPAM...

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don't cut him off before I have a chance to HO a HOLDZIT HOOOOOOOOlster , I got to wake LINK JR. up and get some HO lessons we all know how good he is at it !!!
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Cool

Real men use their teeth.

I don't need no stinkin' pliers.

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Spamming you i'm not, thanking you I am for visiting my site and letting me explain why a tool might be tight in a holster was my thought.

The best to all in 2005.
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use pliers, do i. yes, yes.


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Old 01-09-2005, 11:26 AM   #26
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Tlap, have you gotten those pliers yet? If so how do they look?

I was watching Mark Sosins SW show several times now and he whips out a pair of stainless needle nose pliers to unhook a fish with one hand. He gives them a flick to extend them. They looked like an all on one (leatherman like) tool but never seemed to give a close up shot of them or talk about them. I emailed him and got this response:

Dear Jim:

The pliers you have seen me use over the years have been a Gerber 600 Fisherman Multi-Tool. You can open them with one hand. Gerber is owned by Fiskars and the scissors on the tool are first class. Although I don't use braid, I would think those scissors would cut it.

Thanks for your generous comments about our show. Right now, we're trying to improve the new shows for 2005 and raise the bar a notch or two.

Mark Sosin

Since then I have gotten a few more emails that claim the sissors on these pliers cut super braids just fine. I may give them a try.
they are sold on the gerber web site for a semi-reasonable price.
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Make sure to keep them really lubed up. I bought a set of the gerber multi-tool.....the thing just froze up. No salt, sand, nothing. the needle-nose wouldn't slide out. The push-button broke. It was garbage, I went an got a leatherman.....doesn't have the easy flip out (when it works) pliers, but the thing really cannot be beat.

For braid - I bought the leatherman wave - and it has single handed knife opening.

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Old 01-10-2005, 07:15 AM   #28
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I haven't gotten aropund to picking up these new Brownings. I think Goosefish may have the multi-tool you are talking about. If it is the same thing, he loves his.

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