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Boat Fishing & Boating A new forum at Striped-Bass.com for those fishing from boats and for boating in general |
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06-18-2005, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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Ficht is running like a swiss watch-NOW
Been having some issues with the ficht 175, shaking and stalling at low idle(trolling).
Talked to the service guys and they agree, change the fuel/water separator and the spark plugs.
So I did both today and found the plugs were in pretty bad condition. I did replace mid last season, but these were shot......
So 6 plugs at the price in the pic .....do the math.....I gotta find another source......72 bucks plus tax.......geeeeeezzzzzzzz.
But shes running smooth and strong.......a solid 40MPH......
Last edited by Van; 06-18-2005 at 06:34 PM..
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06-18-2005, 06:56 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 946
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Sparkplug.com or rockauto.com about $5.00 a plug.
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Fly & Light Tackle Fishing
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06-18-2005, 08:08 PM
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zoom
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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Thanks, i did a FROOGLE search and did find some alot cheaper. 5 bucks is real good price.
I'm gonna stock up...
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06-19-2005, 07:20 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
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Van,
I not an outboard guy but when I overhear guys talking don't they make an anti carbon spray stuff that your supposed to spray into the intake every so many hours to get all that crap out. I remember Abba telling me about this a year or 2 ago when he got his Bombardier which I thought was one with the ficth system, could be wrong?
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Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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06-19-2005, 07:39 AM
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
Posts: 3,875
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I use Carbon Gaurd, every other tank or when I remember, Works great! Mixes right in the gas tank.
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"All my friends are Flakes!!"
BOATLESS
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06-19-2005, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cape Cod
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I have used nothing but ficht oil,added carbon guard 1 oz to every 8 gallons of gas, decarbod every 100 hours, and the freakin thing still blew up. 
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06-19-2005, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
Posts: 4,145
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I've never decarbed during the season, just with the engine tuner at winter storage time. The engine runs great (unless plugs are shot) so i don't think i will start something different.
Yes i have the bombardier ficht, I will talk to ABBA about it, i see him pretty regularly.
V.
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06-20-2005, 07:34 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
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run them until they blow up then buy another and repeat....the misson statement of outboarders everywhere. 
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06-20-2005, 08:25 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
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Get my plugs for my Ficht at NAPA auto supply for$5.30 each!!!! Order today and pickup at eight o clock the next morning!!!!!
Beats paying 72 bucks at the Evinrude dealer!!!!
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06-20-2005, 08:27 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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sounds like you're running heavy on the oil (2 stroke i presume)
check your mix
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06-21-2005, 07:23 AM
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zoom
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
Posts: 4,145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
sounds like you're running heavy on the oil (2 stroke i presume)
check your mix
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Computer controlled and injected, so there is no adjustment to make.
I can check comsumption, but so far I think its right on..I'll make sure though.
Thanks Guys,
I'm gonna order two sets (rockauto $4.05) so I always have a set ready to go.
The other issue is I have to install the plugs with the ground strap facing away from the injector (180 degrees). Its like musical chairs with spark plugs to get it right.. A major PIA and they don't all quite line up perfectly....
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06-21-2005, 07:30 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
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Van,
Don't those plugs have to be "indexed"? That is, the gap must be facing a certain direction on each cyl. On mine you needed to take a felt pen and mark on the white part of the plug were the gap was, then when you tightened them up you needed to make sure the index mark you made was in a certain sector of the head and the torque was within range...if not you had to back it out and put in another plug and try that. Once you got them all right it did make a big difference. I bet there is something like that on yours too.
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06-21-2005, 07:57 AM
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D'oh
Join Date: May 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 3,296
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Don't those plugs have to be "indexed"? That is, the gap must be facing a certain direction on each cyl. On mine you needed to take a felt pen and mark on the white part of the plug were the gap was.....
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BTW- WHAT A PAIN IN THE A--THAT IS. Took me 8 plugs to change 6...
And like others said, I found these plugs for $5/ea at sparkplugs.com. Way better than the $25/ea @ west marine.
Hey Jim, to totally hijack, how fast were you using oil on those bad boys?
Thnx.
Zac\
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06-21-2005, 08:26 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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OT, ZAC, I would go thru a few cases of oil each season. (for two motors) I can't recall exactly how much it drank per gallon of fuel. I do remember they both consumed about the same amount though. If you run hard it will drink a lot more oil...If you spend a lot of time trolling it doesn't drink much at all I found. That ficht oil is pretty costly too....My advice is wait till Feb when there is a big sale and buy a seasons worth.
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06-21-2005, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Quincy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman
Van,
Don't those plugs have to be "indexed"? something like that on yours too.
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Yea thats what I meant. it is a real PIA. SOme ended up about 90 deg. away from the proper spot, but its running fine.
Gonna order new plugs soon.
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06-21-2005, 11:34 AM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
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RockAuto.Com
Van-
Until these plugs became available everywhere I too was getting raped at my dealer, like $8 - $9 a plug, gimme a break.
At Rock Auto, bought two sets of plugs for less than it would have cost for one set last season. That is my one bitch with the new 'Rude.... they fry plugs like nobody's business.... 
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06-21-2005, 11:55 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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The sparkplugs the boat stores sell are a ripoff, just crossreference to Champions or Bosch.
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06-21-2005, 06:30 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
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My 2003 225hp plugs have to be changed every 50-60hrs. My motor starts on the 1st click of the key till I have about 40-45hrs. on the plugs, then after that 2-3 clicks of the key!!!!
I gap my plugs at .30 and have noticed that when I change them, the gap has exspanded to about .60 gap and that is the cause of the motor taking 3-5 clicks to start!!!!
I'm going to decarb the motor tomorrow using "DEEP CREEP" Sea Foam!!!!
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06-22-2005, 07:53 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Gloucester Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigcat
I have used nothing but ficht oil,added carbon guard 1 oz to every 8 gallons of gas, decarbod every 100 hours, and the freakin thing still blew up. 
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What year motor???
I know from experience how easy it was to have a Ficht blow!!! Had two powerheads blow on the 2000 year model!!! When still owned by Johny/rude the 1999-2001 had some serious issues with quality control!!!! Hopefully since Bombardier took over the problems were resolved!!!!
Blown powerheads are not always caused by carbon build up!!! One reason could be that it was running lean, not enough oil!!!!
A good mechanic can tell what the cause was by looking at the piston!!!
If anybody is interested click on iboats.com and go to the outboard section of evinrude/ johnson for those of us back yard mechanics!!!!!
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