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12-10-2001, 05:03 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
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What Size/Color
The wheels are turning and I'm still trying to cut a deal on supplies, but I need some feedback on bait sizes/colors. I know a lot of guys will want the big sluggo, but what about the smaller sizes or one of my design in 7 inch or the 4 inch. My design would mean getting some molds made or buying  (not cheep) some liquid RTV plastic. I'm sure I could buy multiple molds from Lurecraft but it would be nice to know what sizes people would be interested in. I think it's a no brainer the 9" sluggo is wanted, so I will order multiple molds when I get the 5 gallon plastic and FUME MASK  . Actually looking at a 6-8 inch round fume hood fan and set it up right in my cellar under a large 1-2 fan fume hood. Anyone want to trade plastic for sheet metal or know anyone that might be interested. I'd pay for the fans, but it would be nice to have the hood built correctly.
If specific mold numbers from lurecraft are available, that works too. Let me know by email or pm, thanks.
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12-10-2001, 05:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Portsmouth RI
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Like you said GS, 9 inch sluggos are a given.
Got FLUKE baits? 
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12-10-2001, 05:12 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Ya, 9" sluggos and those fluke baits, the 7" ones you made. And how about the hook setup for those?I'm lazy.
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12-10-2001, 05:16 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Bristol, Rhode Island
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How about a 5" white fork tailed bait. From my own experince with plastics white works great in the spring. Also very dark green is good.
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12-10-2001, 06:19 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Portsmouth RI
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GS,
How about a mold thatlooks something like this...with that screw lock thing on the eye.
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12-10-2001, 06:27 PM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
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9 INCH
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Over the Last Several Years HAB'S NEEDLEFISH Have Caught More "Confirmed" 30, 40, 50, and even 60 pound Striped Bass than any other Wooden Needlefish on the Market today. 2 Over 50lbs. and 1 Over 60lbs. in 2005 alone........... "HOOK UP WITH HAB'S" Your Best Bet For BIG BASS.....
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12-10-2001, 06:31 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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9" and 6" sluggs light and dark colored. Some of those baits you use also. As far as the hood goes I don't know anyone off hand but they are always in the want ad under store and restaraunt. Just an idea.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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12-11-2001, 09:10 AM
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Who says there's no fish in CT
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Milford, CT
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Tattoo,
You ever turn that big hook upside down sticking out the bottom on the big slug????
MZ
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12-11-2001, 09:40 AM
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Just put it there for the picture, I know it goes the other way.
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12-11-2001, 09:57 AM
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Who says there's no fish in CT
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Milford, CT
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Just checking!
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12-11-2001, 11:24 AM
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GS a 7"
Fluke type bait with a larger body. Perfect for my jigs!
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Canalratt1
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12-11-2001, 11:40 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Quote:
Originally posted by Tattoo
Just put it there for the picture, I know it goes the other way.
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Are you sure  , this is my rigging  and all flat sides on baits IMHO should be on top. Why, because the bait glides better, the flat side offers somewhat better snag resistance and because I say so  .
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12-11-2001, 11:50 AM
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Who says there's no fish in CT
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Milford, CT
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GS,
Better hook up ratio with hook out the bottom, but you are correct about the snag resistance.
Do your hook have a pin holding it onto the bait in front?????
MZ
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12-11-2001, 11:52 AM
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OK, I change my mind, I'll rig it the other way. Only because GS said so!
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12-11-2001, 01:44 PM
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If you rig it Texexposed you hook it like GS's pic. That is they way Lunker City recomends it.
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Canalratt1
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12-11-2001, 02:14 PM
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Here fishy fishy
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Like all sizes, 4 colors I prefer white, green, and yellow in that order.
Ice
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12-11-2001, 02:38 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
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It's a screw lock I'm making myself out of 175# single strand SevenStrand wire and as to hook up ratio, ask anyone that's been out with me....don't miss many rigged this way. BUT, I've got the appropriate rod, reel and 30/6 spiderwire, the later of which I deem key to success rate with any plastic baits.
Here's a pic of the hooks and screwlock. 
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12-11-2001, 04:52 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Quote:
Originally posted by Canalratt1
GS a 7"
Fluke type bait with a larger body. Perfect for my jigs!
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Do you have the lurecraft catalog? If you do, any mold number close to what you'd want?
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12-11-2001, 07:58 PM
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Who says there's no fish in CT
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Milford, CT
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GS,
Do you have the same hook up ratio rigged your way with the 9" as well????
I've rigged them Texposed with the Lunker City hook and had a hard time hooking up much at all. My buddy showed me how he rigs them with a 9/0 O'shaugnessey out the bottom and I hooked up more, but I'm still looking to get a better hook up ratio than that even.
MZ
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12-12-2001, 06:59 AM
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White at Night is Right
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: CT
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Uh oh the eel king is asking a lot of questions on Plastics
Marc I have a sluggo rigged up with the texposer hook, but I put the eye of a smaller trebble hook up the shaft so it has 2 hooks exposed near the head of the bait. After I slid it up I crimped down so now the eye of the trebble cant come off the barb of the texposer hook if I should hook up. Have not given it a shot yet but it still looks good in the water. I think I might have a better shot hooking , but I think that if I was using fireline I would have hooked up a little better. Way to much stretch, doing the mono. I had more hook ups this year using them with the hook totally exposed with 9/0 O'shaugnessey. Still no big fish, but next year I plan on fishing the CT River with them for the herring run.
We have to get up there in the late spring for some hogs!
JohnS
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Bite On My Line
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12-12-2001, 08:17 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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JohnS - that's my thinking EXACTLY on where and when to use GS's plasticraft for huge, CT River in the Spring 
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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12-12-2001, 08:43 AM
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Ledge Runner Baits
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Mark, I've got almost no experience with the big sluggo and my bait of choice is the 7 inch split tail. Now if I were surf fishing all the time, I'd probably throw it more for both distance and a good eel imitation. I'd still rig it that way, because I'd have no reason to think it wouldn't. I'm also using Owner hooks, which are sharp puppies and the braid is a must.
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12-12-2001, 11:59 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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G/S, I don;t care what style you make up. Just make mine all bright yellow// Thanks
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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12-12-2001, 01:03 PM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: The Road to Serfdom
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clamdigger,
I have the first prototype "clammer-pop" turned and drilled. It's hard maple a little under 3/4" dia and about 2 1/2" long. I'll paint it and wire it, what color do you want? You'll just need to get the right sized hooks, all I have is 3/0 trebels right now.....
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12-12-2001, 03:02 PM
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Registered User
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ED, Black with a white belly // thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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12-12-2001, 04:07 PM
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Ledge Runner Baits
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
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OK, so black, white, yellow and green. Wish I had a lurecraft color chart to post, because there are all shades of colors. I think I will go with larger pints, some red for my primary colors and can use my trusty color wheel for specials. Man you think my fumes were bad, damn near fell over walking into Advanced Adhesives in Seabrook NH today. Picked up a GE video on mold making and catalog, but they didn't have any high temp RTV in stock. It's going to get pricing making molds out of that stuff, so I might keep my own design to the resin molds and buy lurecraft sluggo and finish fish knockoffs to keep the cost down. If any of you guys have the lurecraft catalog and can suggest the better molds for finish fish copies, let me know.
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12-12-2001, 04:08 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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I also run my 9/0 out of the bottom and have had some good success. The hook ups are quick, and you have to be paying attention.
I like the way Gs rigs and have tried it in a round about way, with out the cork screw.
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Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
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12-12-2001, 04:29 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
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Apocalypse is Coming:
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12-12-2001, 04:33 PM
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Super Moderator
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Location: Middleboro MA
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Ya, that's the site John.
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12-13-2001, 11:32 AM
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Registered User
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GS I ordered the catalog there are lots of molds and will have to go through it. I'm also looking for 6" shads but can get bulk for fairly cheap dough.
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Canalratt1
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