Good Braid for rocks?

[JFigliuolo]

I know... use mono. I like too many things about braid. mainly zero stretch and distance. So, knowing braid is the worst in rocks... what's the best of the worst?

[spence]

On conventional, I really like the Spectron.

-spence

[t.orlando]

I use Power Pro. And as far as mono vs braid in rocks, I'll take braid everyday. Only broken off twice, and that was by that mystery rope at a certain location. 65conv, 30 spin.

[Flaptail]

There is no such thing. Some last better than others but if the rocks are heavy go to mono. Some day you will thank me for this.

[Saltheart]

Cortland spectron....conventional only.

[spence]

I've been using 50lb Spectron on my Calcutta 400 with no issues. Spool capacity doesn't seem to be a problem as I have little depletion...the stuff is so tough it nearly always breaks at the weakest point in the leader/clip etc...

Or perhaps I just can't cast that far

-spence

[Vogt]

30 lb fireline has been awesome in the rocks/stucture for me.

[Nebe]

60 lb power pro & 8 feet of 50 lb flouro leader.... only one break off this year

last year i was using 30 lb fireline and 40 lb flouro on a spinning setup and lost many bass to the rock gods

[tattoobob]

Does anyone have a problem with Power Pro getting berried and then snapping off? and when throwing as hard as I can I get mad tangles to the point of hating it

[spence]

I couldn't stand PP on the conventional, for the reasons you mentioned.

But then again, if you're casting as hard as you can...that could be the issue as well!

-spence

[RIROCKHOUND]

Nope; had problems with PP on my VS250, but I have it on a 525Mag, and it's behaving great; I was tossing 3.5oz jigs into the wind sat. night and had no problems, and I canth throw much harder than that!

[tattoobob]

Well maybe I should have said it differently, like harder than normal
I never throw as hard as I can, I hate throwing plugs to China

[Skitterpop]

What strength and brand do mono users recommend?

I have 30# Ande mono on a big Baitrunner and it casts like a wet towel.

Thank you,
Mike

[tattoobob]

20 pound Triline Big game
You could also try Stren magna thin 25 or 30 pound

[Tagger]

I know this one ... fish rocks 80% of time..I'm loving Berkley Ironsilk....30lb. test .021,,, stuff is tougher than any mono I've used in the rocks.. its wierd ..not stiff ,,very limber stuff,, when u tie a knot it looks like fly line..I have it on a 7500 nautil on a lami triflex.. throw yozuri darters, red fins. loaded ,, 17a bombers good plus all 2 and 3 ounce stuff ,, covering alot of bases here .. rienforced polymer they call it .. good rock line.. digging fireline for braid ... no more pp for me thank you..

[Tagger]

oh yea .. i forgot... can be awnry first cast .. tie 2-3 ounce weight on and give the ironsilk a couple of break in cast ... after that your all set ..

[JFigliuolo]

Originally Posted by Nebe

60 lb power pro & 8 feet of 50 lb flouro leader.... only one break off this year

last year i was using 30 lb fireline and 40 lb flouro on a spinning setup and lost many bass to the rock gods

I tried an alberto knot. after about 6 casts line snapeed at knot after catching on a guide.

[NIB]

When I bridge fish I use 80 lb braid(kitestring) an 40-65 lb leader depending on the water clairity.I have used a uni to uni to make the connection.Never ever had it fail on me.I have had times when hung up it took 2 of us to break it off.This is extreme fishing in a 6 kt current.
For rocks i have pinged some 30's off the rocks with Fireline I have broke about everything else.
Skitter u can tro 30 lb mone on a conventional.But its to thick for spinning.Try 20 lb or even 15.Guys like ande backcountry.I have use big game for yrs. Last yr i dragged a 34 lber around a rock with it.it took the bait an went down i fought him the whole time around the rock on a loose line when i killed him a dragged him back.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by JFigliuolo

I tried an alberto knot. after about 6 casts line snapeed at knot after catching on a guide.

when you use conventional tackle, the line peels through the guides much smoother than spinning.... if you switch over, you wont have that problem.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by tattoobob

Does anyone have a problem with Power Pro getting berried and then snapping off? and when throwing as hard as I can I get mad tangles to the point of hating it

Lost 3 plugs, two real nice ones one night in rhody in a large surf. The bowling ball size boulders in the wash were getting tossed around and as the line (50 pp) went slack as the wash pushed the line up on the beach, the boulders would roll across and cut it. I still use 50 pp on spinners and 80- whiplash on my 7000 Abus (almost out though )

[The Iceman 6]

for rocks, i use 30 lb fireline with palamor knot...

Ice

[fish4striper]

Hey Guys,

I just spooled up my spare spool with PP to try on my shimona stradic. Mine broke off too going thru the guides. Maybe it was my knot, I tied a reverse albright, maybe I didnt tie a good enough knot.

Anyone using PP on spinning have success with this? Which know do you use.

Thanks, Jeff

[fcap60]

I recently read a post/article and starting using improved clinch knots for braid. No problems, easy to use.

[chief10]

fish4- try using a swivel then 3' of leader material. I found no matter how well you tie a knot to leader material it will hit one of the guides. causing the braid to kick back and slow your cast down or worse. the braid is what you want flying through your guides.

[zacs]

why are you guys reeling the knot through the guides? I typically use a swivell, but sometims uni-uni, however in both circumstances, I never reel either through the eye, and if by mistake I do, I ease it back out. I typically use a 3-5 foot flouro leader, 30/40/50 test depending. At night i always use the swivell, that way i can here it go through the guide, although I usually have a prety good idea where it is.

_Z_

[RIROCKHOUND]

Jigging I use about 8ft of 40lb mono connect to an albright with 50lb PP, rarely have a problem with the albright; again throwing convench;
Lately out of laziness I've beeing doing the swivel and leaver again, but prefer the longer leader, gives me lots of cut-back room after fish on rough bottom...

[Saltheart]

On braid , you need about 18 to 20 turns of the braid around the mono leader on the albright. If you use 12 turns which is pretty standard for mono to mono , the braid will slip. An alternative if you only want the samaller knot with 12 turns is to superglue the knot afterwards. i use 18 turns when I use the albright. Since i broke my finger , I have trouble doing the albright so i have switched to opposing uni knots.

[Bernzy]

Originally Posted by Tagger

I know this one ... fish rocks 80% of time..I'm loving Berkley Ironsilk....30lb. test .021,,, stuff is tougher than any mono I've used in the rocks.. its wierd ..not stiff ,,very limber stuff,, when u tie a knot it looks like fly line..I have it on a 7500 nautil on a lami triflex.. throw yozuri darters, red fins. loaded ,, 17a bombers good plus all 2 and 3 ounce stuff ,, covering alot of bases here .. rienforced polymer they call it .. good rock line.. digging fireline for braid ... no more pp for me thank you..

Ditto what tagger says, except I like 14-17lb. Ironsilk on my 6500's and 30lb Fireline on my spinners.

Bernzy

[piemma]

Originally Posted by Bernzy

Ditto what tagger says, except I like 14-17lb. Ironsilk on my 6500's and 30lb Fireline on my spinners.

Bernzy

Berzy:
Try the Ande Back Country. Stuff is tough as nails, great around rocks and disappears in the water because of the steel gray color.