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Skip N · 11-09-2005, 02:11 PM

Anyone hear that San Francisco voted to ban the sales of all hand guns and ban home owners from having them as well? I heard something briefly about it and wondered if its true. I wouldnt be surprised seeing how they are all a bunch of leftie wackos out there...any truth to this? How can they tell someone they cant have a gun in THIER home for protection!? WTF

chris L · 11-09-2005, 02:27 PM

hmmmmmmmmmm lets see if they get past the 2nd amendment . Id like to see them ( do gooders ) remove my weapons from my home . guns dont kill people , people kill people .

for those that dont remember what it says
article 2 : A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Raven · 11-09-2005, 02:56 PM

they'd rather wear a flower in their hair

spence · 11-09-2005, 03:33 PM

The vote passed 58% to 42%...sounds like it's what the people want. I think Chicago and Washington DC already have something similar.

Don't think the Second Amendment really applies here anyway. The states and local governments can do just about whatever they want in the name of public safety.

I don't believe the Supreme Court has ever ruled a gun law unconstitutional under the Second Amendment.

-spence

Nebe · 11-09-2005, 07:40 PM

someone is always packing something in sanfran

Raider Ronnie · 11-09-2005, 07:43 PM

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someone is always packing something in sanfran

You beat me to it,
I was going to post something similar!!!

Skip N · 11-10-2005, 12:36 AM

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someone is always packing something in sanfran

haha aint that the truth!

basswipe · 11-10-2005, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

The vote passed 58% to 42%...sounds like it's what the people want. I think Chicago and Washington DC already have something similar.
-spence

Generally speaking most people are uninformed when it comes to firearms and firearms related issues.Day in and day out year after year its drilled into their heads that "guns are bad" without ever being told why simply because the people telling them don't have a sufficiently reasonably explanation.

Chicago and DC have extremely high crime rates where as in cities that allow CC of handguns the rate is very low.Also for every crime comitted with a firearm there are tenfold as many crimes prevented with one.Its peculiar how "the people" are never given those tidbits of information.

spence · 11-10-2005, 07:19 AM

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Also for every crime comitted with a firearm there are tenfold as many crimes prevented with one.Its peculiar how "the people" are never given those tidbits of information.

Probably because it isn't true. Care to cite the source?

I'm not a person who thinks guns a bad by the way...just that you don't have any god given right to own one.

-spence

Pete · 11-10-2005, 07:43 AM

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they'd rather wear a flower in their hair

That's because they don't understand gun control.

Learn to shoot with both hands!

Pete

Diamond Tackle · 11-10-2005, 10:20 AM

The media is THE biggest problem.Without getting into a log rant, for ex: everytime "assault weapons" are mentioned do you notice they show fully automatic weapons being fired ,as if those are the weapons being kept off the streets, and most people who dont understand guns fall right into it. Ive had people literally ask me, why do you need a "machine gun" anyway?. Media brainwashing. These same reporters also cant tell thhe diff between a revolver and a semi auto handgun if their lives depended on it, yet they are "reporting" the news to us. Makes you wonder how accurate the other news is.
San Fran can ban all the handguns they want,i have no reason to ever live there. I think they prefer Swordfighting anyway.

MakoMike · 11-10-2005, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Probably because it isn't true. Care to cite the source?

I'm not a person who thinks guns a bad by the way...just that you don't have any god given right to own one.

-spence

Spence a Study my a Dr. Lott, forget what university he's from. Google his name and you should find it.

spence · 11-10-2005, 01:01 PM

Dr. John Lott of the uber right wing American Enterprise Institute?

I agree there are plenty of gun myths...but I don't believe there's a 10:1 ratio of gun crimes to crimes stopped.

-spence

spence · 11-10-2005, 01:14 PM

Reverse that ratio in my last post...Damn edit...

-spence

piemma · 11-10-2005, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

Probably because it isn't true. Care to cite the source?

I'm not a person who thinks guns a bad by the way...just that you don't have any god given right to own one.

-spence

Hey, did you realize there was a gun in the truck last weekend.....

spence · 11-10-2005, 01:21 PM

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Hey, did you realize there was a gun in the truck last weekend.....

My pinky finger was stuck in the damn barrel for nearly an hour! It was like a freaking Chinese torture puzzle

You should really lock those things up

-spence

toddonbi · 11-10-2005, 01:48 PM

I saw this on the news last night. Am i correct that they said it applies to business owners also? If that's the case that's nuts.

spence · 11-10-2005, 01:50 PM

I think it covers just about everyone besides the police and military folks...people who need guns to do their jobs.

-spence

toddonbi · 11-10-2005, 01:52 PM

might as well make change out of a bucket on the sidewalk i guess...kind of like the penny tray beside the register.

Skip N · 11-10-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by toddonbi

I saw this on the news last night. Am i correct that they said it applies to business owners also? If that's the case that's nuts.

Of course its nuts its San FranFreako. Those people are just so outta wack its disturbing. They seriosly need mental help. The criminals must be loving this law. They can rob buisnesses and homes knowing the folks are unarmed. Man those people are retarded out there.

toddonbi · 11-10-2005, 02:12 PM

It just boggles my mind, although you are right it is SanFanny. I still like the Pa. law about breaking and entering...if they flop out of the door after you shoot them for breaking in grab 'em by the boot heels and drag 'em in.

crash · 11-10-2005, 02:29 PM

The truely pathetic part is that criminals will always have access to guns, and now the residents of San Fran. will not. In Boston where I went to school, I could buy a stolen gun for $20-$100, I would never do it, but I could have. When I turned 21 I jumped thru all of the hoops to get a permit so that I could buy a gun at $300. Does this make any sense?

MakoMike · 11-10-2005, 02:39 PM

Spence, I don't know if 10 to 1 was the number he came up with or not, but it was something most people would be amazed at. He has been attacked time and time again by the gun banners, but no one could discredit his paper on the subject and, in fact, it was praised for ti technical merit by several professors at well know colleges. What's the difference if its 5 to 1 or 10 to 1?