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Old 01-07-2006, 06:40 AM   #1
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Question Boat Rods

I am still learning about rods.... and if someone could point me to
the link i'd appreciate it...or tell me what is a good rod for stand up fishing in a boat...that has the real strength for fighting a big ole cow.

Things are changing for me...and i should be buying a house this year and a boat and its the "time of year to dream of gear". Thanks.

ps i have my surf rod.....but was thinking of something shorter 8'.....beefier.... i have like four rods but am still dreaming of more.
and dont want some cheapo power stick. i tried doing the st. croix thang online for rod selection and it wasn't very informative.
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Old 01-07-2006, 09:53 AM   #2
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It seems like an open ended question. Not to discourage you or anything but most on here seem to think that you need different rods for each application.

What type of fishing are you doing, trolling, livelining, jigging, etc... would all get different types of rod recommendations.

I'm pretty much a newbie too so good luck.

Personally I will be getting some new rods this year. Prob. a 7' tsunami spinning rod and some custom stand up gear from the Outfitter.
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Old 01-07-2006, 10:58 AM   #3
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Cool i'm in the "most " group

like for example fenwick had this 7 foot rod that
was primarilly for steelhead salmon that had a real
strong back bone to it... and i was thinking that a 9' foot
plus surfcasting rod would be kinda big for use in a boat.

my very first saltwater rod was solid fiberglass and 7 foot long.

for fresh water rods i have a berkly lighning rod thats good for small mouths
and largemouth bass and ugly sticks but i wouldn't think to use them
for a real large fish of 30 lbs and up.....was my thought.
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Old 01-07-2006, 11:56 AM   #4
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7' acid wrapped custom stick.
you know whear

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Old 01-07-2006, 02:46 PM   #5
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Spinning? conventional? casting close? casting far? casting what? bottom fishing? livelining? fishing around rocks? fishing shallow sandy stretches? deep water?

Answers to any one of these questions will influence the advice you'll get.
FWIW, generally speaking, 7' is a good size for a boat. The heavier the gear and quarry, the shorter the rod. Also, I don't think you really mean "stand up" fishing because that refers to tuna gear used in a special harness that allows you stand instead of sit to fight the fish.

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Wink spinning

throwing plugs mostly... i've caught fish i couldn't even turn before that spooled me...with rods that had no backbone -but i was standing on shore...

i have three big rods... , but nothing shorter for use in a boat.....
that i consider a real strong rod....i guess i'm under the mis-conception that theres a need for a shorter rod on a boat...
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Old 01-07-2006, 03:24 PM   #7
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Quote:
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throwing plugs mostly... i've caught fish i couldn't even turn before that spooled me...with rods that had no backbone -but i was standing on shore...
That was the reel's fault or how it was set, not the rod.

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i think your right...
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Old 01-07-2006, 09:03 PM   #9
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Call Goose, he builds a nice eel/live bait drifting rod. You'll want some 7-8 foot spinners to plug with. I have a batson 967 that is nice for plugging. Have an Ande stock 8 foot spinner that is good for big plugs and can be used to drift eels and such..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raven
I am still learning about rods.... and if someone could point me to
the link i'd appreciate it...or tell me what is a good rod for stand up fishing in a boat...that has the real strength for fighting a big ole cow.

Things are changing for me...and i should be buying a house this year and a boat and its the "time of year to dream of gear". Thanks.

ps i have my surf rod.....but was thinking of something shorter 8'.....beefier.... i have like four rods but am still dreaming of more.
and dont want some cheapo power stick. i tried doing the st. croix thang online for rod selection and it wasn't very informative.
If you're looking to take your surf fishing skills and plugs and apply them from the boat 2 or maybe 3 rods tops could cover it. We've been sort of specializing in this off Newport for the past few years. It's deadly way to fish and you'll be amazed how big the fish are that will come up and hit a topwater during the day if you're casting at the right places.

For production rods, the new Loomis Pro Blue series is tough to beat. Big cork grips, all sorts of lifting power, and a tip capable of ch#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g Danny's and big needles into the suds. It'll spank any sBFT you encounter as well. Extremely light rod considering it has so much power.

There's also a rod in their Live Bait Series (LR844S I think) that makes a great slightly lighter counterpart to the Pro Blue. It to can throw a 2 1/4 Danny but it's not too much heavier in hand then a heavy freshwater bass rod. It can also handle your lighter surf plugs and plastics. Not as much lifting power as the Pro Blue, but we've taken 40+ pound fish on it. It's cheap for a Loomis too but still has the lifetime warranty.

Put a 6000 Spheros on the big stick and 4000 on the smaller one and declare victory. 20 or 30# Fireline on the big one and 14# on the light one. That's pretty much exactly what we've been using on the guide boats the past few years where they see daily abuse in the hands of clients because they're effective, (relatively) inexpensive, extremely durable, and backed by the two best warranties in the business, Loomis and Shimano. You can obviously bump up to Van Staals, Stellas, or Saltigas if you want, but as a boat reel the Spheros is almost impossible to beat regardless of price. It even has the same drag as a Stella in the 4, 5, 6, and 8000 sizes from what I can see.
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hey thanks Pete....

outstanding information !!
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