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08-16-2006, 07:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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Fillet on the beach?
Just wondering, it it legal to fillet your catch if it's of the legal size right on the beach and discard the "junk" of it into the ocean? Like bluefish, better to filet them and get them on ice as soon as you can and same with all fish right? Or won't it matter as long as you throw them on ice straight away? I'd rather keep the kitchen clean..I'd be in NJ too, didn't find a site that told me if I could or couldn't.
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08-16-2006, 08:03 PM
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Needlefish Nazi
Join Date: Mar 2001
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They fined George Calzone for having some Bass fillets a few years back on the Race, He was eighty something years old to. Now thats Sad................
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08-16-2006, 08:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cape Cod
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if you filet bass on the beach and are found, you will be fined. as the previous post stated, they don't care. you have no way to prove how long the fish was by the length of the filet itself. i believe it is stated in the rules that all fish must be taken home whole, or as they put it, not evicerated. blues, thats another story. no one cares about blues anyways 
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08-16-2006, 08:33 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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I am targeting blues and stripers right now. So if I fillet the blues it won't be bad?
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08-16-2006, 08:44 PM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
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filet all the blues you want on the beach, bass is a no-no, they'll freak out on ya....
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08-16-2006, 08:55 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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You can't fillet any fish that has a minimum length. Blues are OK because they have no minimum length, just a 10 fis daily bag limit.
Party boats have to keep the racks of filleted fish until they're back at the dock.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-16-2006, 09:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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Oh ok, well thanks for the info guys!
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08-16-2006, 09:31 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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I drive them to the boat ramp and fillet them there. It's on the way home too. Otherwise it's to the public or yacht club docks. Plus they are have fresh water hose!
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“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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08-16-2006, 09:55 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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Mhmm...good idea. Tobad the docks are farther away than the house is from where i'll be fishing! But I will go to the docks.
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08-16-2006, 11:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: newport
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It seems to me that if you had a fillet that was 28 inches long ( or even 26 inches long) ,it would stand to reason that THE FRIGGIN FISH WAS LEGAL! 
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08-17-2006, 07:33 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Lincoln, RI
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You can fillet to your heart's content in RI.
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Best regards,
Roger
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08-17-2006, 09:32 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
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322 CMR 6.07(7)(e):
"7) Prohibitions. It shall be unlawful for:
e) a recreational fisherman to mutilate any striped bass in such a way as to interfere with or affect a proper and adequate measurement of the fish; such mutilation shall be prima facie evidence of a violation of this section;"
My take on it is, if you had fillets over 28" long and 3" thick, there are EPOs who'd accept that as evidence that the fish was legal, and there are EPOs who would write you up.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-17-2006, 12:31 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
Posts: 801
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fillets on the beach
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but I am curious. So what happens if you catch a legal fish, take it home, fillet it. Then the next day you're back on the beach and want to grill your legally caught and filleted fish? Is it illegal to have striper fillets on the beach?
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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08-17-2006, 12:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
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The short answer to all of this is "it depends."  The laws vary state by state, so while its legal to filet bass in RI it may or may not be in CT, MA, NY or NJ
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08-17-2006, 12:41 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
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For clarification, my question was about Massachusetts.
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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08-17-2006, 12:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweetwater
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but I am curious. So what happens if you catch a legal fish, take it home, fillet it. Then the next day you're back on the beach and want to grill your legally caught and filleted fish? Is it illegal to have striper fillets on the beach?
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Why wuld you grill your fish on the beach the next day though?
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08-17-2006, 01:47 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newbie14
Why wuld you grill your fish on the beach the next day though?
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maybe because you want some lunch
I have done that before. How is anyone going to determine the fish was not from a market either?
The whole purpose of the law is to keep poachers from keeping shorts. Boaters seem to have an advantage that surf guys don't have, they can clean their catch back at the dock if they want to, then do whatever with the fillets. I don't know about some of you guys but I find it a big pain in the butt when I keep a fish as I do not live close to the water and I toss the remains in the trash, and trash day is Friday so if I keep a fish over the weekend, the rack sits all week long
I would like to think that most EPO's would not bust your nuts about it if you are honest and don't appear to be trying to hide something like a poacher would do.but some of the younger guys might give you crap anyway.
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1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-17-2006, 01:48 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JHABS
They fined George Calzone for having some Bass fillets a few years back on the Race, He was eighty something years old to. Now thats Sad................
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yes that is sad 
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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08-17-2006, 02:31 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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Well, just to be safe if you wanted, grill it that morning, bring it with you. Saves time and is easier.
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08-17-2006, 02:40 PM
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Ruled only by the tide
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Truro
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newbie14
Why wuld you grill your fish on the beach the next day though?
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Sometimes I may spend 3 or 4 days in a row fishing the beaches, only leaving to get some sleep in my truck. So I may have fish caught the previous day, taken off beach, and filleted. I keep a grill in my truck and a nice grilled bass in roasted pepper sauce or tangy mango is just what a man needs when the fishing is slow 
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Three-fourths of the Earth's surface is water, and one-fourth is land. It is quite clear that the good Lord intended us to spend triple the amount of time fishing as taking care of the lawn.
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08-17-2006, 02:50 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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Oh wow, now thats a camp out. I am spoiled enough to have the house a block away from the water..
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08-17-2006, 02:52 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
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I have always been under the impression that you wont get into trouble when/if you fillet on the beach if you save the frame and take it all home with you.. frame intact- the law states that you may not mutilate the bass to make it unable to measure... so if you can measure the frame, whats the problem?
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08-17-2006, 03:06 PM
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Cape Cod
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweetwater
Sometimes I may spend 3 or 4 days in a row fishing the beaches, only leaving to get some sleep in my truck. So I may have fish caught the previous day, taken off beach, and filleted. I keep a grill in my truck and a nice grilled bass in roasted pepper sauce or tangy mango is just what a man needs when the fishing is slow 
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man i would love to see the epo that ever comes across you doing that! not saying its illegal or anything, but those guys get woodys everytime they think they've bagged someone. i can see the drool dripping off his lips! hahaha 
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08-17-2006, 05:07 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
I have always been under the impression that you wont get into trouble when/if you fillet on the beach if you save the frame and take it all home with you.. frame intact- the law states that you may not mutilate the bass to make it unable to measure... so if you can measure the frame, whats the problem?
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How would you fillet without destroying the fish?
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08-17-2006, 05:46 PM
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umm,the juicy sweets!!!!!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: n.chelmsford
Posts: 347
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newbie, when you filet the fish, you are taking a section that is independent of the mouth or tail, thus leaving a rak that's still measurable!
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Make it idiot proof, and someone will make a better idiot.
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08-17-2006, 07:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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Oh yeah, but it is easier to fillet wit hthe head off, isn't it? Never saw someone fillet the fish with it all in-tact.
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08-17-2006, 08:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newbie14
Oh yeah, but it is easier to fillet wit hthe head off, isn't it? Never saw someone fillet the fish with it all in-tact.
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How many stripers have you filleted newbie? Sometimes you cut the head off to give it to a buddy for his lobster traps but that would be the only reason I see for doing it  oke: .
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08-17-2006, 09:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Sea Isle CIty+North NJ
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I have only fillet one striper..well had some help with it too.
Again, I am a newbie at saltwaterfishing, hence the newbie sn.
*Edit*- Well, I acrtually have sever seen someone fillet a fish with the head off, I don't know what I was talkking about..
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