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View Poll Results: Canal "surf" or not?
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Yes the canal is truly the Surf in every sense of the word
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No the canal is something different that doesnt really fall into any catagory
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09-21-2006, 11:34 AM
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The Canal
Who here considers the "Canal" true Surf Fishing, I do not, it is man made first of all and it has no "Surf" so, how would you charecterize that place? its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?
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09-21-2006, 11:41 AM
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surf is surf
shore is shore.
It is shore fishing absolutely
so if there are only 2 catagories to choose from , and someone calls them surf or boat, well it ain't boat so it must be surf.
The canal is not surfcasting, it is casting from shore though.
Have you ever been there when waves ARE coming thru? it sure can look like surf.
"its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?"
Nope, it's not any of those, it is a canal, a man made canal. and there is no other place quite like it on earth.
the way you wrote the poll, saying the second choice is it doesn't fall under any catagory is a little strange to say the least.
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09-21-2006, 11:43 AM
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Ok then, fishing a fresh water lake is also "surf" fishing???? Yes shore is shore but the word "surf" means something, if you have no surf than how can you call it surf fishing?? You cant! Its not surf fishing..........
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09-21-2006, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Ok then, fishing a fresh water lake is also "surf" fishing???? Yes shore is shore but the word "surf" means something, if you have no surf than how can you call it surf fishing?? You cant! Its not surf fishing..........
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I don't call the canal surf.
you have a point, if there is no surf, how can you call it surf. So when the ocean beach is flat as a lake,like on race point at times, then you can't call that surf fishing? nonsense.
surfcasting is from a beach with waves crashing in front of you. Surfers surf in the surf, surfcasters fish in the surf
Why does the canl have to fit in some catagory? the place is kinda unique. I hear they catch fish there on eels too 
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1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
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09-21-2006, 11:52 AM
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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09-21-2006, 11:57 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Hmmm, this topic sure does ring a bell---now where have we had this discussion before
Oh yeah---now I remember
http://www.wmi.org/saltfish/saltboar...hing/T4511.htm
See Bill, here's one thing you and your old buddy Gowgie agree on 
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09-21-2006, 12:09 PM
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Lets just agree that a fish caught from there is a shore fish and therefore, they count.
And by the way, jig fish count double  .
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09-21-2006, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Slipknot
I don't call the canal surf.
you have a point, if there is no surf, how can you call it surf. So when the ocean beach is flat as a lake,like on race point at times, then you can't call that surf fishing? nonsense.
surfcasting is from a beach with waves crashing in front of you. Surfers surf in the surf, surfcasters fish in the surf
Why does the canl have to fit in some catagory? the place is kinda unique. I hear they catch fish there on eels too 
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Lighten up....its a topic...not the end of the world...everyones has opinions, my opinion is if you fish the canal exclusivelt then you cannot call yourself a surf fisherman in the true sense of the word...
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09-21-2006, 12:10 PM
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I see
and I am lightened up, I lost 2 pounds.
MikeP, I like DZ's reply =
7/6/1999 3:38:00 PM Submitted by D.z. (205.67.218.30) from RHODE ISLAND says Surf Fishing
Surf Fishing is any kind of fishing from the shoreline. Surf Casting is casting with plugs or eels. I refer to all bait fishermen as surf sitters in the act of surf sitting. Dennis Z
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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09-21-2006, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Lighten up....its a topic...not the end of the world...everyones has opinions, my opinion is if you fish the canal exclusivelt then you cannot call yourself a surf fisherman in the true sense of the word...
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So I guess we that fish the canal are "Canal Fishermen"
It's the largest sea level canal in the world.
BTW Great topic are you doing a collum on it
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09-21-2006, 06:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Lighten up....its a topic...not the end of the world...everyones has opinions, my opinion is if you fish the canal exclusivelt then you cannot call yourself a surf fisherman in the true sense of the word...
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Good health and family
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09-21-2006, 11:44 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE 
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09-21-2006, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike P
If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE 
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even the great lakes have wind driven waves ! nope it aint surf fishing.......its "land " fishing
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09-21-2006, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike P
If you don't think there's surf there, head on down to Pip's when the wind is blowing 30+ NE 
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Too funny, when I wrote my reply that is right where I was thinking... 
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Used hard and put away dirty....
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09-21-2006, 11:45 AM
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shore fishing.... and i have been there when waves are pushing thru, yikes!
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Used hard and put away dirty....
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09-21-2006, 12:54 PM
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Where is this thread going?
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09-21-2006, 12:57 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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Hey John---think we can push this one to 96 posts? 
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09-21-2006, 01:03 PM
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Double sided Jetty fishin, and a river runs thru it...
it's shore fishing, yes.. but I would not liken it, to a night of surf fishing..
it is it's own unique style.
You certainley don't use the same techniques and gear, you do from a sandy beach.
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09-21-2006, 01:17 PM
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Definition of Surf from American Heritage Dictionary.
surf (sûrf) KEY
NOUN:
The waves of the sea as they break upon a shore or reef.
Definition of Fishing from American Heritage Dictionary.
fish·ing (fshng) KEY
NOUN:
The act, occupation, or sport of catching fish.
A place for catching fish.
So if you are engaged in the Act, Occupation or Sport of Fishing where the waves can break on the Shore or Reef you are standing on then its Surf Fishing. Doesn't say anything about it being "Qualified" as Man-Made or Nature Made.
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09-21-2006, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tynan19
Where is this thread going?
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Its going no where and more tounge and cheek than anything, I can see mike knows that already basically its a useless thread so yank it if you like, give the mods something to do 
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09-21-2006, 01:07 PM
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Finally
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Originally Posted by #^^^^^^&
Who here considers the "Canal" true Surf Fishing, I do not, it is man made first of all and it has no "Surf" so, how would you charecterize that place? its not really a breachway? its not really a river? its not an estuary?
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Who Cares!!!
It's all fishing no matter how it's done.
I fish because I enjoy it, doesn't matter how I do it, I like it all, boat,shore,rocks,beach,canal,toilet,whatever......
What about when they fished from bass stands in the old days? How do you classify that? Not that it matters..
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09-21-2006, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by fishaholic18
Who Cares!!!
It's all fishing no matter how it's done.
I fish because I enjoy it, doesn't matter how I do it, I like it all, boat,shore,rocks,beach,canal,toilet,whatever......
What about when they fished from bass stands in the old days? How do you classify that? Not that it matters..
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I care...... 
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09-21-2006, 01:23 PM
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I care...... 
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Why? What does it matter?
Then if the Canal isn't surf, what is it and what are the guys who fish it???? Please clarify, Bill... 
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09-21-2006, 01:48 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
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If wind driven waves don't qualify as surf---Nobska Light isn't "surf" either
Anything on the south shore of the Cape isn't surf
Whole north shore of MV
Hell, all of Cape Cod Bay--Sandy Neck, Town Neck, Plymouth, you name it. 
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09-21-2006, 02:07 PM
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Canal fishing is like surfcasting, only harder.......... but with better parking and bigger rats.
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09-21-2006, 02:12 PM
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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09-21-2006, 02:24 PM
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I call it canal fishing ! it is canal fishing so I call it as I see it . could be classified as shore fishing but I wouldnt call it surfcasting or boat fishing . river fishing is a close cousin of canal fishing . So If I was fishing in the erie canal would it be erie fishing  .
boat fishing = platform fishing
shore fishing = fishing from land into water of any kind
canal fishing = fishing a canal
river fishing = fishing a moving river
landfishing = landshark encouinters
Mrs. Arlsburgerhhh? what ? Mrs. Johannesburrrr? who is it ? Flowers flowers ? from whom ? plumber ma'am . I dont need a plumber . you are that clever shark arnt you ? candygram . candygram my foot Im calling the proper authorities . You're the shark, and you know it. I'm only a dolphin... A dolphin? Well...okay.) landshark !!!!!!!!
I was singing in the rain just singing in the rain what a glorious feeling just singing in the rain . Oh its not raining you say well I say it is ............. somewhere . is it 5 oclock yet yes somewhere it is .
If I fished in a toilet it would be power plant fishing . no ?
hey Bill have fun at that island .
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09-21-2006, 03:27 PM
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LMAO while LOFL
oops I just did a fishweewee . guess I picked the wrong day for white pants
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09-21-2006, 03:38 PM
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oops I just did a fishweewee . guess I picked the wrong day for white pants
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chrissy, you wore white after labor day? 
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09-21-2006, 03:44 PM
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Probably linen too.
He's got no idea.
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