Bottle Darters - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

luds · 01-20-2007, 10:00 AM

Are these any good? I'm not familiar with north bar tackle. I really want some bottle darters. Wish I could have scored some Mac ones before he hung it up.

eastendlu · 01-20-2007, 10:09 AM

Those are by the guy that invented them Larry 's are the best.

luds · 01-20-2007, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by eastendlu

Those are by the guy that invented them Larry 's are the best.

Thanks. Is northbar tackle the same as "Larry's Lures" or is that a different Larry?

Krispy · 01-20-2007, 11:33 AM

I have some of those, can anyone explain why I would use one instead of a bottle or a darter?

luds · 01-20-2007, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Krispy

I have some of those, can anyone explain why I would use one instead of a bottle or a darter?

That's a good question. I've seen alot of Gibbs bottles shaved down into a bottle darter. Why do they do that?

eastendlu · 01-20-2007, 11:40 AM

How many metal lip swimmers do you fish?Just a different action and shape works well when fished right just like any other plug.Fish it and see for yourself.

NIB · 01-20-2007, 11:43 AM

WHERE DID U GET THOSE.
I NEED SOME,.MORE.

eastendlu · 01-20-2007, 11:49 AM

I knew NIB was going to get here fast.

Zeno · 01-20-2007, 12:07 PM

Great plug made very sporadically by a very bright fellow on Long Island.Not sure if they are sold in stores or which one (someone might want to chime in if they know).I know they were at one time.The new batch that was made few months ago was painted by BM (don't know if this is a favor or standard arrangement going forward).Kind of hard to get unless you live on LI and even then you need to ho them.I only own one (goes to show you how much in the loop I am

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Regardless ,buy them when you can ,a great fast water lure

Tagger · 01-20-2007, 04:08 PM

BigFish · 01-20-2007, 04:36 PM

Lets all go to Luds house to see what else he is hording!

Mike P · 01-20-2007, 05:29 PM

I'm pretty sure they made a bunch for Ron Dietrich, which he offered thru his Coastal Tackle catalog back in the day. Ron must have brought them along when he hooked up with the original VS guys, because I think they were also listed in the first (and as far as I know, only) Van Staal Tackle catalog.

The Koelwyns became a sponsor of the MV Derby in the mid-90s and published one general tackle catalog, featuring not only the reels, but custom rods built by Ronnie, and a host of other tackle--bulk spools of line, termininal gear and some lures, including North Bar as I recall. They passed the catalog out at the Derby headquarters, which is where I picked up my copy.

Of course, VS being VS, everything in the catalog was a good 25-50% higher than you could get it almost everywhere. Which is why I'm pretty sure it was their first and only general tackle catalog

I think Doc Muller, in his brief fling at lure making, made something similar which he called a "Throttle Bottle".

Matty Fish · 01-21-2007, 09:05 AM

It's not the same Larry as Larry's Lures. If you fish a lot of darters or bottles and want to try something different, this is it. I got some about a month or so ago and when I swam them was really impressed. They have a similar swimming action to a bottle plug, but will slide out like a darter. I've heard a lot of good things about them and look foward to fishing them this year. I've even fished next to the creator and watch him pick off fish on nights when a regular darter wasn't getting it done. Needless to say I'm buying more when they're available

Pete F. · 01-21-2007, 05:23 PM

I was in the midst of making my first batch of these or something similar when this thread started. Tested them in the river this afternoon. Swam great about like a SS darter and a 37" Pike thought so too. Usually the river is solid this time of year and until this year I had an indoor test facility at the college I worked at. Just another advantage of not working there.

capesams · 01-21-2007, 08:38 PM

not to poo on this maker's plug,,but in the late 50's , stan gibbs first bottle darter was as you see it in the pic [3 plug's]posted above and widely used at montauk..then the second shape was a bottle with a bit more of an upper lip. then to the full shape that commonly seen today.I beleive someone picked up on this plug and ran with it...if I could pull the pic's of stan's templete out of this book and post them,,you could see for yourself.