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07-08-2008, 06:56 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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"Bump " no take ....
Saturday night we had alot of fish bumping plugs but not taking them . Switching plugs and getting bumps on almost everything but no takes . I had a fish hit a Numby donny so hard it made the plug fly . How it missed the hooks I don't know . Managed 1 fish on a skin plug (cheating) ,,, and bud got one on a black bomber and foul hooked a bass . This rarely happens but did happen one night last year when the fish were not taking just bumping . Finally foul hooked one in the top of the head .. I know .. should of had eels ..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
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07-08-2008, 06:58 PM
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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well thats why its called fishing right?
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07-08-2008, 07:20 PM
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Addicted to plugs
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Byfield,MA
Posts: 249
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Must be contagious, wed. nite joppa flatts, dragging eels, same thing, just bumps in the night, very frustrating to say the least. I assumed they were small fish.
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07-08-2008, 07:21 PM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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sharpen your hooks. 
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Ski Quicks Hole
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07-08-2008, 07:25 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hyefisherman2
well thats why its called fishing right?
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I don't know what that is ... something weird was going on .. Like the fish were really annoyed with the plugs in thier presence.. 1 or 2 you missed a fish ... after about ten ,,and not little taps mind you .. they were not happy with our offerings ..
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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07-08-2008, 07:29 PM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
Posts: 8,484
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
sharpen your hooks. 
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VMC's only .. I stick myself all the time to make sure they are sharp ... 
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Belcher Goonfoock (retired)
(dob 4-21-07)
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07-08-2008, 07:30 PM
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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or maybe they were just fincky, and were not fully committed into hitting and engulfing.
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07-08-2008, 07:47 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Plymouth, Ma
Posts: 1,405
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I've wondered if those Bumps with no Pick ups could be a scent issue on the lure/bait. Soap or something else they dont like and detect from our hands.
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The beatings will continue until morale improves
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07-08-2008, 07:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,463
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripersnipr
I've wondered if those Bumps with no Pick ups could be a scent issue on the lure/bait. Soap or something else they dont like and detect from our hands.
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They probably smell the greed.
-spence
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07-08-2008, 08:18 PM
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Trophy Hunter Apprentice
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: THE Other Cape
Posts: 2,508
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same-same a little further South,
Cape Ann, lotsa bumps last week.
took two 17", then a 20", then a 26" on a rigged eeel.
this was over the course of three weeks. still on the schnide!!
am pretty sure that they were all resident schoolies, because after those catches...................NADA!! landed the other three on swimmers and a spook at false dawn. this year is starting off slowly.
should get better by the Full,
hang in there, Tagger. still looking for decent surf, out there>>>
been like glass and gin clear water covered by dense fog and mist
for three weekends ina row.............praying for sum nice 1'-4' rollers
this coming w/e, might even hop on my buddy's boat for a keeper!!!
NAAHHHH, i'm not THAT desperate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YET!!!

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"The first condition of happiness is that the connection
between man and nature shall not be broken."~~ Leo Tolstoy
Tight Lines, and
Happy Hunting to ALL!
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07-08-2008, 08:20 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Here and There Seasonally
Posts: 5,985
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I experienced the same thing yesterday. Bumpity bump. No take. Like they were po-ed at the plug on their turf (?). Plugs and tins. No sale. 
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He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Thomas Paine
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07-08-2008, 08:44 PM
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Formerly the_shocker
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: ricca
Posts: 730
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maybe they were spooked from fireworks and were being picky.
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07-08-2008, 09:15 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MA/RI
Posts: 2,411
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lotsa bumps sun. nite w/ loaded 7" redfin chicken scratch. Switched to a smaller swimmer, black a-salt, consistent hookups all small bass.
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07-08-2008, 11:59 PM
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eh! What do you mean?
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tiverton
Posts: 763
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A few bumps or 1 hit wonders Sunday... Bass were not showing any real interest in any artificial lures (wood, rubber, plastic, tin)... They were keying on silversides that were making their way into the river...
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07-09-2008, 07:42 AM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 3,397
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Same thing happened to me Wed. nite at a local UDL - just curiosity bumps but they wouldn't commit and seal the deal - so don't feel like the Lone Ranger.
At least I stayed until 4 AM to be sure they weren't interested  Man, the next day was not pretty.
You can go through all the conjecture about the reasons - presence of bait - too much or too little, water temps, plug color and selection - it's a long list and doesn't end there.
Beats me, I couldn't pin it on anything I'd want to bet the mortgage payment on. 
Last edited by Crafty Angler; 07-09-2008 at 08:06 AM..
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07-09-2008, 07:43 AM
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Canal Junkie
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Raynham
Posts: 1,678
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We completely slayed on Sat AM.. most were 20-26" fish... 6 or 7 fish that were 28-38"
most on small yo-zuri's or pencil poppers.
the largest was on a full sized bomber.
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aim: SaltedBrian
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07-09-2008, 07:46 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: N. Shore MA
Posts: 271
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Same thing off Newport yesterday. Small fish. Got a few rats on a Tattoo Sea Pup, but missed my fair share. Some sandeels in the water. Switched to a small stubby needle just to get some more bumps and no true hits. I blame it on small fish. Not too familiar with the area. Sandeels common in the NPT rocks?
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07-09-2008, 07:54 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tagger
Saturday night we had alot of fish bumping plugs but not taking them . Switching plugs and getting bumps on almost everything but no takes . I had a fish hit a Numby donny so hard it made the plug fly . How it missed the hooks I don't know . Managed 1 fish on a skin plug (cheating) ,,, and bud got one on a black bomber and foul hooked a bass . This rarely happens but did happen one night last year when the fish were not taking just bumping . Finally foul hooked one in the top of the head .. I know .. should of had eels ..
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Eels aside, if I were fishing plugs I would try the following..
1. Remove leader and tie direct if you're fishing mono.
2. Long hackles on the tail hook of a plug sometimes entice fish to strike. It used to work for me real well in pleasant bay.Can't tell you how many times the fish would chew the feathers off, rendering the plug ineffective.
3. Try a dropper fly or redgill. Maybe they're feeding on sandeels or the like.
4. If all else fails, its time for an eel retrieved very fast...
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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07-09-2008, 09:16 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
Eels aside, if I were fishing plugs I would try the following..
1. Remove leader and tie direct if you're fishing mono.
2. Long hackles on the tail hook of a plug sometimes entice fish to strike. It used to work for me real well in pleasant bay.Can't tell you how many times the fish would chew the feathers off, rendering the plug ineffective.
3. Try a dropper fly or redgill. Maybe they're feeding on sandeels or the like.
4. If all else fails, its time for an eel retrieved very fast...
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I'll add a another suggestion to Back Beaches' list:
5. Try downsizing your plugs or use a three trebled plug such as 6 inch Bomber, 5 inch redfin, or smaller. Tie direct.
One thing you can't change is their mood - they don't feed all the time. If they did there wouldn't be many left. I always try and equate striper fishing with largemouth bass fishing. Sometimes they don't bite or hit aggressively. A pond can be full of largemouth bass but they won't touch anything - but they're still in the pond. Striped bass can exhibit the same behavior.
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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07-09-2008, 09:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Cambridge, MA
Posts: 1,358
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This past monday, same story. It was dead low, fishing a little known spot on the Mystic and a schoolie would just follow the lure all the way up to the shore, but never went in for the kill not even a bump. Stumped?
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07-09-2008, 10:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mid Coastal CT
Posts: 2,007
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This happens to me all the time at a spot where the bass are almost always on smallish bait. What I find works is to vary the retrieve quite a bit. Often we fish bombers in this area, and giving the plug a long pause will entice savage takes from somewhat finicky bass.
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07-09-2008, 10:29 AM
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Red Eye Jedi
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: East Facing
Posts: 4,374
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i've had good luck with big dannies when fish were keyed in on smallish bait 
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07-09-2008, 10:29 AM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DZ
I'll add a another suggestion to Back Beaches' list:
5. Try downsizing your plugs or use a three trebled plug such as 6 inch Bomber, 5 inch redfin, or smaller. Tie direct.
One thing you can't change is their mood - they don't feed all the time. If they did there wouldn't be many left. I always try and equate striper fishing with largemouth bass fishing. Sometimes they don't bite or hit aggressively. A pond can be full of largemouth bass but they won't touch anything - but they're still in the pond. Striped bass can exhibit the same behavior.
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6. Learn to flyfish. 
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Ski Quicks Hole
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07-09-2008, 11:02 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
Posts: 1,142
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Sometimes the rip it and pause, rip it and pause gets them to take it.
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07-09-2008, 11:21 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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I was going to put a up a thread on what i learned from fsihing live bunker. Since its in the day and mostly on the surface, you see everything. I am amazed at how many times a bunker is 95% dead, and bass whack it over and over and miss. These are fish that can easily swallow it. If they cant even take a dead fish, think of that with plugs!
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07-09-2008, 11:51 AM
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President - S-B Chapter - Kelly Clarkson Fan Club
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rowley
Posts: 3,781
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Quote:
Originally Posted by likwid
6. Learn to flyfish. 
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or how to tie one on as a teaser 
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07-09-2008, 11:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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tie on a teaser. someone may have mentioned that but i didnt read the whole thread..
I have found when they are keyed in on small bait, they nudge plugs more often.
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07-09-2008, 11:53 AM
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Old Guy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 8,760
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RIJIMMY
I was going to put a up a thread on what i learned from fsihing live bunker. Since its in the day and mostly on the surface, you see everything. I am amazed at how many times a bunker is 95% dead, and bass whack it over and over and miss. These are fish that can easily swallow it. If they cant even take a dead fish, think of that with plugs!
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How about a bunker fishing from a boat is easy thread.
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07-09-2008, 02:03 PM
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OLDGOAT7205963
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: CAPE
Posts: 693
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In the spring ,in bays on outgoing i would use twodroper flys infront of a 5" rebble for small fish when the size limit was 16" but i haven't used it i n years
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07-09-2008, 02:08 PM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD GOAT
In the spring ,in bays on outgoing i would use twodroper flys infront of a 5" rebble for small fish when the size limit was 16" but i haven't used it i n years
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Ooooh, you're giving out all the good secrets now, Pete. You told me almost 20 years ago to never,ever show that trick to anyone.
I remember you telling me to always put that rig on with my back to the water otherwise I might lose it.
If this keeps up I'm going to tell everyone about the toothbrush lure.... 
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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