Dave Andersons Article in the fisherman..

[Rockfish9]

Page 16R... one of the best articles I have read in a long, long time.. Kudos to Dave for bringing something to tha table that is near and dear to anyone that has been striper fishing for more than a few deacdes..Thanks Dave

[ProfessorM]

Dave who

[JohnR]

Crap - this means I'm gonna need to pick it up...

[GattaFish]

Originally Posted by ProfessorM

Dave who

[Clammer]

read it / he,s right on .. But / its not a boat fish //

he has his S$%^&*( together ...most of the time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>he,s no fun ><><><

[Raven]

Dave's not hear.... WHAT?

[fishaholic18]

Dave

[PNG]

Good read but will they hear it?

Shoulda been in the front of the mag.

[Crafty Angler]

Ahhh....he's startin' to sound like an old faht, kids today and all that stuff -

Well, that's what he gets for hangin' around here, I guess...

[Canalman]

Thanks... I'm glad that it seems that everyone has read it the way it was intended. My boss was a little upset about it today when he read it AFTER it went to print.

[hardcore from shore]

I read it as let the big breeders live. I read it as "As much as it would be great to hang a 40 or a 50 it would be even better to catch one and release it to breed again".

The "real" fisherman I know I believe when they say they got a 30, 40 or 50 (or a 20 or less). There are times to hang one, but there are times to be happy with what you get and let them go as you know you earned it.
Bill

[missing link]

WOW I read it and got it on time , well you do have to put a MAG out and keep the membership up It keeps us hanging on and I suspect my timely deliveries will cum to a abrupt hault once the fish come in and arrive S L O W and I know it's no fault from the fisherman , It'S G DaM post office getting all the spots B 4 I do
Dave You have done a GREAT job & I still have some of those POPPERS ( GRITTY ONES) I'll continue getting the fisherman just as long as my sister still gives it to me @ X-Mas time
And they make great fire starters just as long that you krinkle them up just right .
NO BS I love the MAG and look foward to it each week The Mag hasen't given up a spot I fish in 2 YRS
LOVE LINK Sr

[Canalman]

Link and anyone else with a delivery problem,

Please call our office and get on the Mail Watch list. The problems have been getting less as we point out the problem areas to the Post Master General (scary sounding I know).

-dave

[missing link]

Dave I'm so happy with the on time del time
as 4 my deliverer her husband is happy also when the season starts
I' ll never give up my subscription to this MAG
sorry to say other conflicts with some other posts I thought I was being helpfull just to brighten winter BLUES I've done something wrong I dident write the QUOTES inthe pic's it was just a proud daughters thoughts about her DAD LIKE I said SEE YA

[fishbones]

Excellent article Dave. I don't see how it could be interpreted any way other than how I think you meant it. It wasn't preachy. I think it might be more of a wake up call to some people.

[Rocco34520]

I need to pick a copy up now!

[Green Light]

Dave Anderson (if you are in s-b.com):

I agree 100%. But, I think it's up to us to slowly re-educate the "new breed of surfman" by answering their questions with silence. If they listen, then respond with a pointed question that will guide them to answer their own questions. That is, help them learn for themselves.

Impressive witting.
I hope to read more of your works.
Kudos.

-Fish360.

PS

Someone once said that if fishing was about catching fish, they would have called it "catching" and not fishing. This new breed of "catch-man" are also invading the fresh water ranks.

[Finaddict]

Dave -

I read it, fortunately I get my magazines on Wednesday, always have. No complaints on my delivery times. And Dave I enjoy reading it every week, you've been producing a good publication with great new writers who add good value.

Your overall message was on target - learn the sport the honest way ... by learning through time on the water and learning through trial and error ... also don't kill trophy fish as a photo will last a lifetime and give opportunity for the fish to spawn new stocks of fish, etc. I've never taken to people crowding or horning in on spots learned by others ... drives me crazy ... all necessary messages.

From a business/marketing point of view - it can be argued ... be careful about alienating readership ... I forget how you exactly categorized that group ... but those who can afford to spend money on the best gear [especially during tight economic times in an industry that is feeling the impact now] ... no sense in turning off those who help to support your advertisers, the publication and many in the industry who are active on this site ... I am surprised that FG let that go through and didn't edit it ... I'm just saying give that consideration too when you are writing.

Thanks for a good magazine, it's really the only fishing pub I read anymore.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Canalman

Thanks... I'm glad that it seems that everyone has read it the way it was intended. My boss was a little upset about it today when he read it AFTER it went to print.

Keep sticking it to the man Dave. You KNOW I like it when you go around the boss to get something in print

[Rockport24]

good stuff indeed! I love to see editors speak their mind like that, and I'm glad you did!

[Pete F.]

I'll second what Finaddict said.

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

Ahhh....he's startin' to sound like an old faht, kids today and all that stuff -

Well, that's what he gets for hangin' around here, I guess...

Hey, Dave, like I told ya yesterday, I was busting ya -

It was a well-written piece and dead on the nuts - it's just another consequence of what happens in the information age - the internet has considerably shortened the learning curve for a lot of the younger guys gleaning information from more experienced surfcasters.

On the other hand there are also some of the newer guys who are putting in their time and paying their dues and respect the old guard for the price they paid. If they're going to be successful they still have to do it the old fashioned way - they have to earn it.

Maybe it's the lack of respect? Well, no one really respects what they get for free. Or probably just another example of what has become a less civil society in general -

Ultimately I think it's just the cyber version of the old bait-shop bull**** ya used to hear back in the day - after a while, whether it was in a real bait-shop back then or on the internet today, it becomes evident after a while as to who's talking out of their paper hat regardless of what gear they have and today it's just easier to do behind the anonymity of a screen name.

The insert of conservation was just as important, I thought - after a while you get to the point where taking a fish for the table to feed your family or friends is one thing - and taking a fish to feed your ego is another.

Christ, now I'm starting to sound like an old phart...

[NIB]

Dave,
Awesome article.I could not have said it any better myself.Well maybe I could but you could not print it..
This whole fast food fishing society of fisherman who have to have instant results with little input makes me want to puke..
This one article was worth the price of the yearly subscription.IMO..I will be glad to re-up again next year..
Thank You.

Tony.

[fishgolf]

Haven't read the article yet.
But from posts, it sounds similar to a theme written about in Newsweek (Jan 12th ed.) concerning the taking of trophy game and the unintended affect of weakening the gene pool by leaving less fit animals to continue the line.
Interesting article.
df

[Slipknot]

Originally Posted by NIB

Dave,
Awesome article.I could not have said it any better myself.Well maybe I could but you could not print it..
This whole fast food fishing society of fisherman who have to have instant results with little input makes me want to puke..
This one article was worth the price of the yearly subscription.IMO..I will be glad to re-up again next year..
Thank You.

Tony.

good, now that you're done reading it, send it to me so I can read it too, i'm too cheap I guess to get a subscription

[NIB]

Here is something I posted somewheres else.Too much time on my hands and caffiene...It's more about fishing in NJ.The new breed, the one hit hero and his minions.

Just when I thought I was done they suck me back in.

While I do consider myself the last bastion against stupid.It's getting harder and harder to stem the tide.
In this new fast food world of surfcasting there has to be results.Our fishery in the spring has done just that.It has also spawned a new breed of big bass men..These new anglers with chest's pumped out have no idea of what our sport is really all about.As "personal bests" fall every minute.The lack difficulty or skill means nothing.They are the new kings.They also think what happens in the spring as far as etiquette is the status quo for the rest of the seasons.I run into these types all the time while sipping a coffee.
"See any bait"."Whats your biggest bass..??"
IMO it has diminished our great sport to that of a video game.
Snag and Drop 2000..
In the mist's of all this a new way of learning has developed.With pics and coverages of the spring runs there is a new king.You can see him three times a week in all the publications.With so many jewels. The fast food anglers flock to him like the pied piper.With dollars in hand they can buy their way to the next big bass.No work involved.Just get a snag hook and get in the network..No body just goes fishing anymore, they need information.With the smallest amount they know just enough to be dangerous.
As they ride the wave it only gets larger.It makes my head want to explode.Not to worry it is my problem. I am the bad guy,The elitist..I was taught this sport under a shroud of secrecy.Now more than ever it is obvious as to why.In a few short months the mongrel horde will be upon us once again stronger that ever..Armed with the off seasons newly learned tactics and 3,000 dollars in gear.They are just enough to be dangerous.I can't wait..
I will fight the good fight.While I have this sad feeling.
There is nothing I can do or say that will make any difference in the end.

[Slipknot]

NIB, what day in May should I be down there with my snag trebles and sneaker?

[numbskull]

Looking for shortcuts, using fish size to measure skill, climbing the status ladder (and killing fish to do it), are hardly reserved for beginners. Too bad you chose to bash the internet wonder, wanna-be sharpie. Although there were many good points I agreed with in this piece, I thought it would have been much better addressed to those of us who have been fishing for years rather than to those just starting out.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by numbskull

Although there were many good points I agreed with in this piece, I thought it would have been much better addressed to those of us who have been fishing for years rather than to those just starting out.

I thought he did both well indirectly..IMO,The ones fishing for years don't really have to be told of this.They live it every day.Perhaps in your little piece of Idaho you don't run into this phenom as much as others..

[dannyplug1]

Dave I agree 100 percent. You lmake two great points: Asking questions reading books and articles are fine. However there is no su bstitute for on the water experience. Secondly only a pig kills a big fish to show it off. Real sportsmen care about the future of the resource and get more satisfaction releasing a cow. I dont care if people believe that I catch a good fish I know I did. Dave thanks for a good article one complant it should have been on the inside cover where it would get more views. thanks Charlie