Need Life vests? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

nightfighter · 03-05-2009, 12:14 PM

Just a heads up on a good deal. I have not purchased, but a friend has and there are plenty of customers comments to help you decide....

http://www.thehulltruth.com/fishing-...h-stearns.html

fish4striper · 03-05-2009, 01:16 PM

Whats the difference between type 1 and type 2?

CaptMike · 03-05-2009, 02:09 PM

type one are the ones you need on a charter boat. The full orange vest with the reflectors and whatnot. type two are the real cheap ones that are U shaped and orange. I think

CaptMike · 03-05-2009, 02:09 PM

Type ones are not to be confused with type 3 ski vests though

fish4striper · 03-05-2009, 02:43 PM

ok, thanks

Scout · 03-05-2009, 02:56 PM

Or Type 13. (Mother-in-law Vests)

smac · 03-05-2009, 05:28 PM

Type I also will roll your face up and out of the water better than a type II if your unconscious.

nightfighter · 03-05-2009, 05:38 PM

This is Type 1 being offered

Raider Ronnie · 03-05-2009, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fish4striper

Whats the difference between type 1 and type 2?

Difference, Living or dying !
Get the type 1 vest !

Raider Ronnie · 03-05-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter

This is Type 1 being offered

That's not type 1

nightfighter · 03-05-2009, 06:59 PM

I am not an expert in these things, nor do I want to mislead anyone. I read what was in the thread, and know that cruise ships would carry Type 1 lifevests. What is it about those shown in picture that makes you say they are not as advertised, Ron?

Raider Ronnie · 03-05-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nightfighter

I am not an expert in these things, nor do I want to mislead anyone. I read what was in the thread, and know that cruise ships would carry Type 1 lifevests. What is it about those shown in picture that makes you say they are not as advertised, Ron?

If I get a chance, I'll climb up into my boat and snap a pic of one of my type 1 and you will see the difference.

fishbones · 03-05-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

That's not type 1

I think you're right, Ronnie. I've been on 8 cruises and sat through those emergency drills, so I've become familiar with those vests. I may be wrong, but I believe that the life vests on cruise ships are type V.

saltyric · 03-06-2009, 07:36 AM

Type one come in several different styles, I am not sure (by looking at the picture) if those are type 1.......These are the Type 1 I have:

Roger · 03-06-2009, 07:54 AM

I bought a few from the guy. They are definitely Type 1. They also come with a plastic whistle.

Telltale evidence says that they come from the Disney Cruise lines.

CaptMike · 03-06-2009, 08:51 AM

Yeah the type 1 are a vest and will hold your face out of the water if you are unconscious. Type 2 are U shaped and probably won't

Roger · 03-06-2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by fishbones

I think you're right, Ronnie. I've been on 8 cruises and sat through those emergency drills, so I've become familiar with those vests. I may be wrong, but I believe that the life vests on cruise ships are type V.

You're right --- about being wrong that is.

All vessels carrying passengers for hire must have type I. Since regs now require lights be attached (if > 3 miles out), I suspect the cruise line found it cheaper to replace all than refit.

Besides, type V is special purpose and must be worn to even count as a Type II, so they can never satisfy the Type I requirement.

Roger · 03-06-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptMike

Yeah the type 1 are a vest and will hold your face out of the water if you are unconscious. Type 2 are U shaped and probably won't

Actually, both with hold you face up if unconscious. The difference is that Type I will turn most unconscious wearers face up, while type II will turn some.

MakoMike · 03-06-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

That's not type 1

Ronnie is absolutely correct. Those look more like type II PFDs, all type I have a collar of some sort to keep you head above water if unconcious. While C.G. regs require a type I PFD for each POB, that only applies to U.S. vessels, which is one of the reasons so many cruise ships are not U.S. flagged. If those vests came off a non-U.S. flagged vessel they are not C.G. Approved type I PFDs.

TheSpecialist · 03-06-2009, 10:19 AM

You are all right, and yet you are all wrong....

http://www.safegardusa.com/Type-1/Vi...-products.html

Both type1 are vest jacket type, and horseshoe type some have collars and some don't it all in the amount of flotation:

Coast Guard Approval Ratings:

Type I -
Provides the most buoyancy. It is effective for all waters, especially open, rough or remote waters where rescue may be delayed. It is designed to turn most unconscious wearers in the water to a face-up position.

Type II -
Intended for calm, inland water or where there is a good chance of quick rescue. Inherent buoyant PFDs of this type will turn some unconscious wearers to a face-up position in the water, but the turning is not as pronounced as a Type I. This type of inflatable turns as well as a Type I foam PFD.

Type III -
Good for conscious users in calm, inland water, or where there is a good chance of quick rescue. It is designed so wearers can place themselves in a face-up position in the water. The wearer may have to tilt their head back to avoid turning face-down in the water. The Type III foam vest has the same minimum buoyancy as a Type II PFD. It comes in many styles, colors, and sizes and is generally the most comfortable type for continuous wear. Float coats, fishing vests, and vests designed with features suitable for various sports activities are examples of this type PFD. This type inflatable turns as well as a Type II foam PFD.

Type IV -
Intended for calm, inland water with heavy boat traffic, where help is always present. It is designed to be thrown to a person in the water and grasped and held by the user until rescued -- It is not designed to be worn. Type IV devices include buoyant cushions, ring buoys, and horseshoe buoys. There are no inflatable Type IV devices.

Type V -
Intended for specific activities and may be carried instead of another PFD only if used according to the approval condition(s) on its label. A Type V PFD provides performance of either a Type I, II, or III PFD (as marked on its label). If the label says the PFD is "approved only when worn" the PFD must be worn, except for persons in enclosed spaces and used in accordance with the approval label, to meet carriage requirements. Some Type V devices provide significant hypothermia protection. Varieties include deck suits, work vests, and board sailing vests.

Type III/V -
Multi-Purpose Commercial Vests.

Roger · 03-06-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

You are all right, and yet you are all wrong....

Hmm, I don't see where I was wrong.

It is pretty funny to observe folks that don't want to have their opinions confused by actual facts. Gotta love the internet.

Roger · 03-06-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MakoMike

While C.G. regs require a type I PFD for each POB, that only applies to U.S. vessels, which is one of the reasons so many cruise ships are not U.S. flagged. If those vests came off a non-U.S. flagged vessel they are not C.G. Approved type I PFDs.

That's totally wrong.
You might want to look into the SOLAS regs, especially 74/83. Those regs are more stringent than USCG regs regarding Type I pfds.

IOW, all SOLAS 74/83 approved pfds are also Type I, but all Type I are not SOLAS 74/83 compliant.

The pfds in question are both Type I and SOLAS 74/83 approved. That's a fact.