Striper Cup - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Jnatti · 03-15-2009, 02:23 PM

Looked at the OTW site today, says its comming soon. Now that im settled down here on the cape, this summer should be full of fishing. Probably be hitting the beaches on the way to work in the morning....Can't wait....getting itchy....at least there still is turkey season

So whats your plan for the 2009 Striper Cup

JohnR · 03-15-2009, 06:01 PM

Hmm - dunno. Anyone think we should put a team together this year?

striperman36 · 03-15-2009, 06:13 PM

Maybe we should have 2 teams.
S-B Liberals
S-B Conservatives

tattoobob · 03-15-2009, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Hmm - dunno. Anyone think we should put a team together this year?

I'm out

Jnatti · 03-15-2009, 06:32 PM

John, I'd be down if there was a team striped-bass.com again this year...but then again it all depends on how many people want to be on it i guess.

Circlehook · 03-15-2009, 08:58 PM

I'm in

striperman36 · 03-15-2009, 09:31 PM

Liberal or Conservative.

Circlehook · 03-15-2009, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by striperman36

Liberal or Conservative.

Libertarian-Loose Conservative.

snake slinger · 03-16-2009, 03:16 AM

im in.

BassDawg · 03-16-2009, 08:24 AM

ya talk about yer premature announciation!!
i've yet to even flirt with my gear and tackle,
let alone commence to wetting sum line~~~

but seriously, gents, since OTW will not give
us a surf and boat division,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what say you
about encouraging the NPT Contingent to enter an
ALL SURF Team to level the playing field???

and, why stop there? perhaps, we could get others
RISAA, MSBA, NIB's Legions, DJ's Shorerats, Team Narragansett
to play nicey-nice and in this way create our own Surf Division Competition within the Striper Cup itself.

just an idea, me surfbruddahs, **it's not like The Cup needs any fixing or anything**

Raven · 03-16-2009, 08:46 AM

i like the way you think

BassDawg · 03-16-2009, 09:23 AM

thanks, bro!

the feelings mutual, although~~~
if i had 1/2 yer photoshop SKILLS

i could get offa the iron and into a cubicle!!!

on second thought,,,,,,,,,,i'll keep me day job.

Rappin Mikey · 03-16-2009, 12:02 PM

There is no surf division this year???

JohnR · 03-16-2009, 12:32 PM

Haven't heard anything or any changes from OTW this year.

I know I would like to see a LOWER maximum amount of fish that can be entered (even though in reality most people re not entering anywhere near the max amount of fish) to reduce impact of the tourney.

Maybe we as a team should better track what our top 10 are so we know on a near daily basis what fish make no sense keeping in regards to the tournament. We did OK last year but can probably tweak a bit for the better.

The Dad Fisherman · 03-16-2009, 12:40 PM

There is a Surf Division....There just isn't a Surf TEAM Division.

angler229 · 03-16-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Haven't heard anything or any changes from OTW this year.

I know I would like to see a LOWER maximum amount of fish that can be entered (even though in reality most people re not entering anywhere near the max amount of fish) to reduce impact of the tourney.

Maybe we as a team should better track what our top 10 are so we know on a near daily basis what fish make no sense keeping in regards to the tournament. We did OK last year but can probably tweak a bit for the better.

On that note I would love to see them bump up the minimum size of fish to 40" or more for the adult division. Fish smaller than this size have no impact on cup points or weekly winners. But for the kids the 36" size allows them a much better chance at weighing in a fish.

Circlehook · 03-16-2009, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Haven't heard anything or any changes from OTW this year.

I know I would like to see a LOWER maximum amount of fish that can be entered (even though in reality most people re not entering anywhere near the max amount of fish) to reduce impact of the tourney.

Maybe we as a team should better track what our top 10 are so we know on a near daily basis what fish make no sense keeping in regards to the tournament. We did OK last year but can probably tweak a bit for the better.

Can you make a locked forum for team members to touch base??

BassDawg · 03-16-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

There is a Surf Division....There just isn't a Surf TEAM Division.

absolutely RIGHT, TDF!

i think that you know what i meant.
and THANKS for your clarification,,,,,,,,,,,

since OTW won't give us seperate TEAM divisions,
in my view, it would be cool if we would configure our TEAMS
so that we WOULD have teams that were ALL Surf.

i also would like to see a minimum slot of 40"+,
to limit needless kills and to encourage C&R,,,,,,,

RIJIMMY · 03-16-2009, 01:49 PM

BD, just curious, why?
Im pretty sure all 10 of the SB fish last year where surf caught so its not like there was a big advantage to having boats involved. Since this site is made up of a mix of both, why not have a mixed team? Why does it matter?

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Originally Posted by BassDawg

absolutely RIGHT, TDF!

i think that you know what i meant.
and THANKS for your clarification,,,,,,,,,,,

since OTW won't give us seperate TEAM divisions,
in my view, it would be cool if we would configure our TEAMS
so that we WOULD have teams that were ALL Surf.

i also would like to see a minimum slot of 40"+,
to limit needless kills and to encourage C&R,,,,,,,

fishbones · 03-16-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

BD, just curious, why?
Im pretty sure all 10 of the SB fish last year where surf caught so its not like there was a big advantage to having boats involved. Since this site is made up of a mix of both, why not have a mixed team? Why does it matter?

I agree, why would you exclude the boaters? Maybe BD is predjudice and he thinks that boat fishermen aren't good enough to be in the same company as the surf guys.

RIJIMMY · 03-16-2009, 02:20 PM

it would be sad if you have 2 groups - boat and surf and separately you dont have enough for 1st place, but combined you would have won.

Sea Dangles · 03-16-2009, 02:42 PM

OTW has told me personally and via email that they will never have seperate divisions.Something about cameraderie yada yada.I can never envision a handicap system where boat and surf guys will be satisfied with the handicap.Even last year was waay too much as is indicated by our top fish all being surf fish in spite of a banner year from the boat guys.Chris Meaghan is a great guy and runs an awesome tournament but seems to be missing the point here.I'm sure he has sponsors to appease as well as other outside pressures to influence his decision making so like it or leave it. My impression is OTW doesn't show much love for the boat guys. If they ever did decide to make different divisions perhaps the accomplishments of many hardcore anglers would have more merit.Fortunately decisions and impressions aren't based on hypothetical scenarios such as the ones Bassdawg presents.

Back Beach · 03-16-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I can never envision a handicap system where boat and surf guys will be satisfied with the handicap.Even last year was waay too much as is indicated by our top fish all being surf fish in spite of a banner year from the boat guys.

Even with the above said, I still feel like the team portion is as fair as it can get. The distribution of big fish is different every year and last years big hitters may or may not repeat their successes in 2009. A big part of fishing success depends on what shows up in your local waters.
I wouldn't change anything about the tourney at this point, except they need a system that will update the standings more quickly and avoid unnecessary kills. I personally took two big fish last year that could have been released as they didn't factor into the tourney.

JohnR · 03-16-2009, 03:50 PM

Agree with the above but I do like the 40 inch minimum for adults. That 36-39.9 range ain't gonna do anything and the rare 40" fish weighing 30 pounds is just that rare other than in claims on the Internet. To sweeten the anxiety

how about making it so you can only weigh in two fish per calendar month. That'll add some sleepless nights

The point ratio for the shore fish is probably about accurate as it will get.

Jnatti · 03-16-2009, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

Haven't heard anything or any changes from OTW this year.

I know I would like to see a LOWER maximum amount of fish that can be entered (even though in reality most people re not entering anywhere near the max amount of fish) to reduce impact of the tourney.

Maybe we as a team should better track what our top 10 are so we know on a near daily basis what fish make no sense keeping in regards to the tournament. We did OK last year but can probably tweak a bit for the better.

I'm with you john, and i agree with the forum for the team...it would provide for real time tracking...it wouldn't be worth keeping a questionable fish if you know that its obvious that the top 10 are grabbing ones that are bigger

J

snake slinger · 03-16-2009, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

BD, just curious, why?
Im pretty sure all 10 of the SB fish last year where surf caught so its not like there was a big advantage to having boats involved. Since this site is made up of a mix of both, why not have a mixed team? Why does it matter?

yes and the year before when we won it they were all surf fish

Sea Dangles · 03-16-2009, 06:52 PM

With a handicap like the one you enjoyed for that victory the tournament was over before it started.

striperman36 · 03-16-2009, 06:56 PM

Did not see a large fish from the boat last year at all. Last year was probably the slowest boat year I've seen in 15 years.
I am with the 40-45 inch minimum for entrance.
It's a shame we couldn't do a C&R tournament, but that is something that is too prone to 'influence' that I just don't see it happening.

intrepid24 · 03-16-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

With a handicap like the one you enjoyed for that victory the tournament was over before it started.

...for the sake of humility, perhaps the handicap should be abolished !
would the surf division be as dominant ?

BassDawg · 03-16-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

BD, just curious, why?
Im pretty sure all 10 of the SB fish last year where surf caught so its not like there was a big advantage to having boats involved. Since this site is made up of a mix of both, why not have a mixed team? Why does it matter?

my point precisely,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i'm not trying to be exclusionary, more along the lines
of leveling the playing field for ALL teams. the reason we entered 10 surf fish is because our TEAM's 10 largest bass were surf caught.

i mostly thought that it would be more interesting that way, and a way to divide the TEAM competition into two divisions~~~~

since apparently OTW will not and cannot according to ChrisDangles.