Looking for 3D adhesive tape

[Mr. Sandman]

I am looking for an adhesive product that would give me a 3D surface texture like fish scales. Texture is more important than a holographic look, I want it to feel like scales...any thoughts?

[Raven]

heres one from luremaking dot com

dollar per foot....

other than that you'd have to buy mica and trim it round

[scottw]

http://www.holocrafts.com/index.php?cPath=21_70

here's another...

[smac]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

I am looking for an adhesive product that would give me a 3D surface texture like fish scales. Texture is more important than a holographic look, I want it to feel like scales...any thoughts?

Making another mold Jim?

[scottw]

http://www.polymerclayexpress.com/im...agonScales.jpg

something like this might help if you want to create scale texture

[Raven]

but i wonder if it has texture or it just appears to have texture

[scottw]

it does, it is a relief plate for making scales in clay, they make rubber ones as well, I don't know exactly what the end use is for Sandman but if he can create a relief scale surface with something like this and apply the holo tape to it/paint/leaf...might work? sounds like he wants textured scales , they have different size scales as well...

[Raven]

i have a personal theory that fish have good enough sensory perception from their lateral line that they can differentiate between hard and soft baits

or on a wooden plug that has say a soft side or eel skin gives off a
better impersonation of real bait... so threads like these i find
real interesting to say the least.

i also think magnets should be used instead of just lead...
but that's a whole different subject.

[scottw]

I agree, I think they can differentiate between shapes and motions in the water the way a bat locates a bug....

[Raven]

i used to try and fool them by throwing small flat rocks

flipping fast into the air to simulate a fluttering moth

they would follow it for a few seconds then abandon the
chase when the sonar ping came back revealing a solid object
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there's too many other indications that fish use both sonar...
and scan also for electrical stimuli ...hammer head sharks for example
use that t-shaped head exactly like a metal detector
and sweep the bottom for prey hidden in the sand...
searching for electrical impulses

and dolphins send sonar into the sand to find food then they go to the spot and dig the creature right out of there...with their beak
or nose....whatever the freak ya call it
~
many times fish especially bass will do a drive by (swim by)
A. to get a better look at the food object as they do an arch
circle past it...since their eye is on each side of their head
B. i think they may be using the lateral line sensor array do do a preliminary scan of the food object before they strike if not sure.
C. of course other times they just strike with reckless abandon....
D: they purposely bash into it to stun it and it just seems like a short strike when they are trying to tail wack it like a whale does.

[Tagger]

I remember Canalman use to put some kind of grit in his paint ,making the texture bumpy on the plug .. Reminded me of cieling grit you add to paint for texture .. Also some peeps are glueing scale fabric to plugs and foiling over it .. looks pissa .. Every plug I've ever seen this done too I'd never get wet ..

[Raven]

of that plug ED

[Mr. Sandman]

Originally Posted by Tagger

I remember Canalman use to put some kind of grit in his paint ,making the texture bumpy on the plug .. Reminded me of cieling grit you add to paint for texture .. Also some peeps are glueing scale fabric to plugs and foiling over it .. looks pissa .. Every plug I've ever seen this done too I'd never get wet ..

What's a peep? What I am looking for is the scale fabric....
While sniffing aroud the net I found this ...http://www.taxidermy.com/cat/09/maczscaler.html
but I am not 100% sure how well it will work on plugs...I may want to try though


Raven: I don't think bass can "scan" a baitfish with their lateral line. To do that they would need an "active" type of sonar and send a "ping" or a "click" thru the fish. As I understand it, the lat. line is a passive set of nerve endings that can pick up vibrations in the water, not ping. That said, it is sensitive as I know that "blinded" fish have been able to track down prey using it.

[scottw]

Sandman...you are probably right, they might not send but they sure have a heightened ability to recieve small inconsistencies in their environ....

I couldn't find the scale fabric but maybe you could use one of these scale mats and pour a thin layer of flexible plastic...if you are making a proto with scaled body to cast others with this would be easy to manipulate and wrap around the body of your proto

[Mr. Sandman]

Scott,

I am talking with a laser engraver now and asking him to give it a try for me. But I want him to try it on a flat piece of wood first and not my wood master.

[Raven]

yeah i think sears sells those .....if i remember correctly

this one... don't know much about it...tho