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Old 08-27-2010, 06:50 AM   #1
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Pat Condell on Ground Zero mosque: "Is it possible to be astonished, but not surprised?" - Jihad Watch



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Old 08-27-2010, 06:37 PM   #2
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hmmm... no one touching this one? I'll bite

My thoughts are that yes you should be able to have your mosque (or whatever place of worship) because we are a free country and thats what being American is all about, right? But in a case like this is shows no class or respect for fellow mankind and thats why I think its wrong.


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Old 08-27-2010, 06:53 PM   #3
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I don't believe in or practice any religion however since this country was built on religious freedom: anyone is welcome to practice and build their monuments to god (or is that God or gods/Gods?) wherever they want in order to practice such religion HOWEVER in this case move the damn thing a few blocks away to respect the significance of the historic event that happened 09/11/2001 as I doubt it will have an impact on whether the members of the mosque end up in a place which they search and deserve.

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I just can't believe that people are so narrow minded that they would ostracize a whole religion because of a small percentage of terrorists

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HOWEVER in this case move the damn thing a few blocks away to respect the significance of the historic event that happened 09/11/2001
They did...it isn't on ground zero....its a few blocks away.

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Old 08-28-2010, 04:04 PM   #7
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I just can't believe that people are so narrow minded that they would ostracize a whole religion because of a small percentage of terrorists
According to Pat Condell it wasn't a few terrorists but in fact Islam that attacked us on 9/11.

I'd wager there are several on this board who would agree with everything he says in this rant, but don't have the balls to do so...

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They did...it isn't on ground zero....its a few blocks away.
And I believe contains a 9/11 memorial of some sorts.

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Lets see. Fair is fair so when will we be aloud to build a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia???? Nope can,t do it.
How about a Buddhist temple??? Nope can,t do it.
How about any other religious group that i can,t think of at the moment.??? Nope can,t do it.

For those that don,t think the above is relevant why don,t we just ask the nicer Muslims to catch the bad Muslims both in our country and the rest of the world.
Sure would make me feel a lot better knowing Muslims disproved the actions of a few enough to capture there own religious kind.
Iwould like to live in peace,wouldn't you???
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The jihadists have always believed it was a holy war. Characterizing them as mere criminals is a gross underestimation. Criminals are predictable. They have worldly schemes for gain. They don't burn themselves and everyone around them to reap rewards in the afterlife.

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Lets see. Fair is fair so when will we be aloud to build a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia????
Because We're better than Them....

At least I believe we are.....

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Islam is no different than any other organized religion. Believe as we do or we'll kill your body.
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maybe a few hundred years ago... in todays world how many catholic, protestant, baptist, taoist, hindu....suicide bombers that prey on the civilian population do you know of? indoctrination thru intimidation - no thanks i'm all set. most have evolved from the stone age.

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maybe a few hundred years ago... in todays world how many catholic, protestant, baptist, taoist, hindu....suicide bombers that prey on the civilian population do you know of? indoctrination thru intimidation - no thanks i'm all set. most have evolved from the stone age.
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Lets see. Fair is fair so when will we be aloud to build a church or synagogue in Saudi Arabia???? Nope can,t do it.
How about a Buddhist temple??? Nope can,t do it.
How about any other religious group that i can,t think of at the moment.??? Nope can,t do it.

For those that don,t think the above is relevant why don,t we just ask the nicer Muslims to catch the bad Muslims both in our country and the rest of the world.
Sure would make me feel a lot better knowing Muslims disproved the actions of a few enough to capture there own religious kind.
Iwould like to live in peace,wouldn't you???
but we're not them! We dont live in a religious led country, We have laws and rights they do not. And if you read up, many Muslims disprove the actions of 9/11, including the imam building the mosque!!!
That said - we worry so much about winning the hearts and minds of muslims, moving the mosque would go a long way in winning the hearts and minds of Americans. I dont see them budging which is a lost opportunity.

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but we're not them! We dont live in a religious led country, We have laws and rights they do not. And if you read up, many Muslims disprove the actions of 9/11, including the imam building the mosque!!!
That said - we worry so much about winning the hearts and minds of muslims, moving the mosque would go a long way in winning the hearts and minds of Americans. I dont see them budging which is a lost opportunity.
Screw the Americans. Let's make everyone else happy and comfortable.


My opinion is that they should be able to build their mosque. Then, someone should put a Hooters directly across the street from it. Even better, have outdoor seating at the Hooters so everyone coming and going can see the waitresses during the warmer months. What the hell, it's a free country.

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My opinion is that they should be able to build their mosque. Then, someone should put a Hooters directly across the street from it. Even better, have outdoor seating at the Hooters so everyone coming and going can see the waitresses during the warmer months. What the hell, it's a free country.

Now THAT....is perfect. Thats how it should be handled.

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