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03-01-2011, 08:55 AM
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what are these?
@tiger direct sale
SOLID STATE meaning?
500 gigs of on-board memory inside the drive?
hadn't seen that before is all...
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03-01-2011, 09:39 AM
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No Platters spinning.....kind of like a big memory chip
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03-01-2011, 11:15 AM
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SSD drives don't have any moving parts so, in theory, they should extremely more reliable than Disk drives. SSD drives are also super fast. When the price comes down, I'll be installing my OS onto a SSD as a boot drive and then use my HDD for storage.
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03-01-2011, 12:01 PM
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one of the things I would wonder about the solid state drives is recoverability of data if and when they do fail....just something to wonder about.
Johnny, what are you going to store on your HDD if its something requiring access like vidoe or gaming.....I would swap that scenario around. the O/S doesn't really suffer from a HDD's speed
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03-01-2011, 12:33 PM
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This is a hybrid drive. Meaning 500GB of traditional platters spinning at 7200rpm with a built in 4GB SSD drive run by the drive controller to manage frequently accessed files. Consider it more like a turbo for a traditional drive than a SSD disk.
TDF - I venture the opposite, clean OS installed on the SSD for rapid boots / improved OS performance, and proper partitioning of programs/data on a 7200 RPM drive. Cost / Gig favors data on the less expensive disk and optimal OS performance to the faster SSD.
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03-01-2011, 12:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
TDF - I venture the opposite, clean OS installed on the SSD for rapid boots / improved OS performance, and proper partitioning of programs/data on a 7200 RPM drive. Cost / Gig favors data on the less expensive disk and optimal OS performance to the faster SSD.
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I buy the Cost per gig argument...cuz I'm a Cheap Bastage....but once you boot up what kind of overhead is your O/S under. Read/Writes to the disk housing your games would be the bottleneck.
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03-01-2011, 02:37 PM
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Is this the same technology used in USB (removal) drives?
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03-01-2011, 02:43 PM
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Instead of "Computers", this forum should just be called "Nerds".
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03-01-2011, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
I buy the Cost per gig argument...cuz I'm a Cheap Bastage....but once you boot up what kind of overhead is your O/S under. Read/Writes to the disk housing your games would be the bottleneck.
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JR hit the nail on the head. Everything is run through the OS and that is often what bogs things down. You don't have to worry about bottlenecks with software or video because, when in use, that info is put into memory. When it comes to gaming, the graphics card and front end cache speed are where the bottlenecks usually occur.
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Is this the same technology used in USB (removal) drives?
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Similar. Difference is that these SSD drives should be connected through the SATA port to provide higher data transfer speeds. |
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03-01-2011, 04:32 PM
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BuzzLuck
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Originally Posted by fishbones
Instead of "Computers", this forum should just be called "Nerds".
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Yes and we should have a password to keep guys like YOU from entering a site for nerds-only! 
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03-01-2011, 05:43 PM
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JR hit the nail on the head. Everything is run through the OS and that is often what bogs things down.
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But once your O/S is loaded into memory where is the overhead coming from accessing the hard drive. Quicker boot times I get.....Overall performance.....Negligible.
If I have an application that is performing intensive Read/Writes I can definitely see a benefit to these for that reason....Databases come to mind......very read intensive |
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03-01-2011, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman
But once your O/S is loaded into memory where is the overhead coming from accessing the hard drive. Quicker boot times I get.....Overall performance.....Negligible.
If I have an application that is performing intensive Read/Writes I can definitely see a benefit to these for that reason....Databases come to mind......very read intensive
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Your OS doesn't load into memory (and stay resident) - 'specially Window$ - too big, lots of memory. Parts of the OS may run in memory but many parts are swapped in and out from disk. Increasing the disk speed and making the read / write times near instant instead of the relatively slow seeking of the disk heads...
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