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		|  11-02-2004, 08:08 AM | #1 |  
	| Really Old & Really Grumpy 
				 
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				wire bender
			 
 for nose loops.....anyone have any thoughts or seen any that can be made..hand job type thingie..table top mounted...plans,pic's, web site etc. |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:58 AM | #2 |  
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				WIRE
			 
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		|  11-02-2004, 12:26 PM | #3 |  
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				 | and   care to share any info on them   my pm works. |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 04:10 PM | #4 |  
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				 | yes tell us please ... seen one in a book ... exspensive .. |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 04:37 PM | #5 |  
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				 | check this out wire bending 
should be able to fabricate something like it for making the nose loops? 
looks pretty easy. 
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		|  11-02-2004, 05:03 PM | #6 |  
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				 | TXS....F.F.....that was a good start.  |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 05:11 PM | #7 |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 06:06 PM | #8 |  
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				 | well! could have the vermont HICK do them, but his loops r abit small. |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 06:31 PM | #9 |  
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				 | I do it low tech. Bend the wire around a screwdriver clamped to the bench and then squeeze with a pair of crimpers made for  putting ends on wire, they have a rounded shape where you squeeze the crimps. I do my end loops with some of the same hi-tech equipment. Of course if I made 100 plugs a year that would be a lot. There is a world of difference between onesies and production runs. I would guess you could have it done for less than the tooling in a production setting. If your goal is to make money you are better off puttin well bought parts together than investing in equipment. Just my 2 cents from other wood product deals.Pete
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:07 PM | #10 |  
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				 | cool video ..  i do a screw driver thing too ... no problem those bends... I was thinking wire hangers..  |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:38 PM | #11 |  
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				 | This is very simple to make and your loops will come out perfect every time and they can be made in about 20 -30 seconds each. Pic 01 shows the jig, all you need are the three holes that have the pins in them and one saw kerf with a handsaw. Take a piece of 3/4" hardwood and cut it so it's 1" wide. You can scew it to a workbench or clamp it in a vice which is what I do. The pins are pieces if 1/4" steel rod 1" long. The holes are two in a straight line and the end one at a 45 degree angle up. The holes have 1/16" between the edges so if you do the math, 5/16" between centers when you mark out the holes.Make the holes 1/2" deep. Next to the holes make a saw kerf that your wire will fit into so you can make the initial 90 degree bend nice and neat. Lay the wire the full width of the wood so you'll have an inch of wire before the bend. Now just follow the pictures, in the last picture I tighten up the loop by squeezing the ends together with a pair of pliers.  ...mrpogie |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:39 PM | #12 |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:40 PM | #13 |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:41 PM | #14 |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:41 PM | #15 |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:42 PM | #16 |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:42 PM | #17 |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:43 PM | #18 |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 08:49 PM | #19 |  
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				 | OH! OH! I have one of those and never knew how to use it   TXS.M.P |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 09:01 PM | #20 |  
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				 | What is that thing he is using?  |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 09:07 PM | #21 |  
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				 | Striperknight, it's just a little wire bending jig used for shaping wire I bought about 20 years ago and never used until I started building plugs. The only part I have ever used are the pins and slot for bending the wire. Should be very easy to reproduce the essential parts on a piece of hardwood.   ...mrpogie |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 09:24 PM | #22 |  
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				 | Hey Kevin    Long time .   Great stuff. I been holding a plug for ya, gotta dig up yer address. |  
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		|  11-02-2004, 09:45 PM | #23 |  
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				 | They still sell it. Pretty cool.www.ares-server.com |  
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		|  11-03-2004, 12:53 PM | #24 |  
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				 | Mr Pogie, as usual beautiful work and thanks for your help!!! |  
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		|  11-03-2004, 02:50 PM | #25 |  
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				 | Hey Kev!!  That was me you passed the other day, in case you didn't realize it.  You woke me up!!
 I made one of Mr Pogies jigs there last year out of a piece of hardwood.  Works great!
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		|  11-04-2004, 08:01 AM | #26 |  
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				 | mrpogie, what kinda wire are you using, it looks like some welding rods i got. Nice jig too! |  
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		|  11-04-2004, 09:15 AM | #27 |  
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				 | I use 308L stainless welding wire. I get it at a local welding supply house. It comes in 3 ft pieces.   ...mrpogie |  
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		|  11-04-2004, 12:28 PM | #28 |  
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				 | Love that wire, its stiff and a little springy but makes nice tail wraps |  
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		|  11-07-2004, 12:31 PM | #29 |  
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				 | no help from the [com.] pro's  |  
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		|  11-08-2004, 09:31 PM | #30 |  
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				link to where these are available
			 
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I heard somewhere that piping plover is indian for "tastes like chicken" ..
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