Just when you thought this state couldn't sink any lower....

[FishermanTim]

A Mass judge has approved a sex change for a convicted murderer at the taxpayers expense!!!

It's rulings like this that PROVE that some judges don't deserve to sit on any bench but at a bus stop!

The only way that the judge could look any less than a complete A-hole would be if the surgery were to be performed IN the prison hospital BY fellow inmates!!!

[spence]

Interesting, unfortunately the article doesn't get into the details of what the medical necessity actually is

-spence

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

A Mass judge has approved a sex change for a convicted murderer at the taxpayers expense!!!

It's rulings like this that PROVE that some judges don't deserve to sit on any bench but at a bus stop!

The only way that the judge could look any less than a complete A-hole would be if the surgery were to be performed IN the prison hospital BY fellow inmates!!!

Maybe this guy is on to something here. If I were a convicted murderer I would do the same thing. Then I would make sure I get transferred to a woman’s prison and live happily ever after as a lesbian........................................... .............

[Bob Thomas]

Unreal. Another reason judges should be elected and not appointed. Waste of money
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[Slipknot]

I heard this on the news WTF
are you chitting me

what article?

who appointed this so called judge?

I have to write letters about this, there has to be more public outrage about this

if judges are appointed, then they should also be able to be fired

[striperman36]

A federal judge, we've spent 12 years in court with this nut. I can't believe the judge actually believes a convicted murderer has had their 8th amendment rights violated for a sex change? DOC should appeal this, I hope there is a appeal argument in the ruling.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by FishermanTim

A Mass judge has approved a sex change for a convicted murderer at the taxpayers expense!!!

It's rulings like this that PROVE that some judges don't deserve to sit on any bench but at a bus stop!

The only way that the judge could look any less than a complete A-hole would be if the surgery were to be performed IN the prison hospital BY fellow inmates!!!

Actually, it was a Federal judge, not a Mass judge. And to elect Federal judges, you'd have to pass a constitutional amendment. Article 3 of the Constitution gives them lifetime appointments.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by striperman36

A federal judge, we've spent 12 years in court with this nut. I can't believe the judge actually believes a convicted murderer has had their 8th amendment rights violated for a sex change? DOC should appeal this, I hope there is a appeal argument in the ruling.

Actually the doctor's on this case prescribed the operation as the solution to his mental state! DOC has been fighting this case for 12 years

Now, I think we can find another alternative, let him out some somewhere safe.. and let people know

[fishsmith]

so insurance companies wont cover this because it's considered 'elective surgery', but we the taxpayers do?

WTF!!!! this is the start of tranforming into tomorowows 'crazy old man' !!

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishsmith

so insurance companies wont cover this because it's considered 'elective surgery', but we the taxpayers do?

I would think that's a precedent that's arguably been set.

-spence

[Raider Ronnie]

Cut his head off instead of his #^&#^&#^&#^& !
Michelle on wrko had it right this morning.
We need to get rid of suiscide watches in prison and set up a room lined with plastic and let them have at it.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Mike P

Actually, it was a Federal judge, not a Mass judge. And to elect Federal judges, you'd have to pass a constitutional amendment. Article 3 of the Constitution gives them lifetime appointments.

Thank You....

Mass had been fighting against this for some time.......Mass has its issues, but lets blame them for some of the things they actually do wrong.....not something they were actually trying to do right

[Rockfish9]

a .22 hollow point between the eyes would cure "his" medical condition...it also would render "him" a non threat.. 3rd.. it would be a hell of alot cheaper...I dont see the judge volenteering to pay for it...
I have a feeling this aint over...

[FishermanTim]

What are the grounds for having a judge removed from the bench?
Surely this could qualify as a valid reason.
Maybe "he" figures that if "he's" going to spend his life in a male prison, maybe "he" should try and take advantage of all that free sex "he" done heard about?

To coin a Eddie Griffin phrase (from the movie "the New Guy"):
"The sex you want, you can't get, and the sex you get you don't want!"

How much would you like to bet that if this POS does get his/her sex change operation, he/she won't file an appeal for a new trial based on him/her being a completely different person?
(If that ever happens, they should tell him/her that he/she can have a new trial, but that they will add the death penalty as the sentence instead of life without parole.)

Of course in Mass, that will never happen, since we are reknown as the state where the criminals have the rights and the victims are put on trial.

I say let him have the operation, but hire the cheapest third-world back-room doctor's assistant's assistant to perform the surgery in the prison's showers. I mean, let's give him everything he deserves, right?

[Mike P]

Federal judges can only be removed from the bench for misconduct, not for rendering bad decisions. We have appeals courts to review lower court rulings. To remove a Federal judge, you do it the same way you remove the President. The House votes Articles of Impeachment setting forth the "high crimes or misdemeanors" alleged, and then a trial is held before the Senate, with a 2/3 majority needed to remove the judge from the bench.

The guys who founded the country believed in an independent judiciary. One that couldn't be swayed by popular opinion and would follow the law without fear of losing the next election, or being fired by the President if they didn't rule his way on a particular case. They were pretty smart guys, I hear.

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The guys who founded the country believed in an independent judiciary. One that couldn't be swayed by popular opinion and would follow the law without fear of losing the next election, or being fired by the President if they didn't rule his way on a particular case. They were pretty smart guys, I hear.

They were very smart guys but I would bet they didn't have to deal with convicted murderers requesting sex changes back then..........

[PRBuzz]

Hire a vet (as in veterinarian) and do a snip-snip dropping his (her) jewels onto the jail cell floor!
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[striperman36]

this is an ugly precedent cons have nothing but time to try to figure out something to try and beat the system.

[PRBuzz]

Originally Posted by striperman36

this is an ugly precedent cons have nothing but time to try to figure out something to try and beat the system.

Don't you mean their lawyers?

[striperman36]

some of them have lawyers, in this case pro bono, in other cases they just jam the system with needless lawsuits

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Piscator

They were very smart guys but I would bet they didn't have to deal with convicted murderers requesting sex changes back then..........

No, but they also established something called Circuit Courts of Appeal that could rein in runaway lower court judges and tell them, respectfully, "you #^&#^&#^&#^&ed up".

[Piscator]

Originally Posted by Mike P

No, but they also established something called Circuit Courts of Appeal that could rein in runaway lower court judges and tell them, respectfully, "you #^&#^&#^&#^&ed up".

I do agree that their whole design is brilliant even to this day.

Hopefully common sense wins out in the end with this particular (and very odd) case.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by Piscator

I do agree that their whole design is brilliant even to this day.

Hopefully common sense wins out in the end with this particular (and very odd) case.

Wolf is the judge that originally allowed this thing gender therapy to start. It's a mess, I hope it gets overruled

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Wolf is the judge that originally allowed this thing gender therapy to start. It's a mess, I hope it gets overruled

Did you know that he was a Bush appointee? I didn't.

[striperman36]

Didn't know that. My wife in the 90's worked cases in front of him

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by striperman36

Didn't know that. My wife in the 90's worked cases in front of him

I was wrong. Just repeated something I read on another site. I looked into it further. He was actually appointed in 1985. By a guy known as the Gipper.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Mike P

I was wrong. Just repeated something I read on another site. I looked into it further. He was actually appointed in 1985. By a guy known as the Gipper.

The guy who raised taxes, dreamed of a world without nukes and cut a deal with the Soviets? He's no Republican

-spence

[FishermanTim]

Now here's something to consider.....

This "guy" was convisted of murder, and is serving life.

So......"him" having a sex change operation will only benefit "him" for as long as "he" in behind bars. I mean, he won't see the outside of the prison except when they carry his body out to the dump!
If "he" isn't ever going to be free, why the hell does "he" need the operation? Isn't it funny that "he" only developed this gender issue AFTER his conviction and AFTER he began serving time?

Maybe he just wants to change the "playing field" so he can be more "receptive" to his bunk-buddies advances?

[spence]

I just hope Nebe doesn't get confused and think he has to get caught killing something to get a sex change

-spence

[striperman36]

His side has been suing based a deprivation of his 8th amendment rights, as they apply whether you're in behind bars or on the outside working to support them