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10-12-2013, 08:41 AM
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Formerly the_shocker
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super strike darters
what size hooks do you put on them?
last year i put on 3/0 4x strong VMC trebles. this year i put 4/0 4x strong VMC's on. didn't notice a huge difference... maybe they got down a little deeper. i was thinking of switching to 4/0 6x strong VMC's after a fish straightened out the 4x strong one's.
i guess my question is does it matter when you fish darters? like how putting heavy hooks on some swimmers will kill the action of the plug.
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10-12-2013, 08:47 AM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chasing fat girls in the dark
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My brother changed to 6x on his north bars and the action remained the same. NBs have a bit more action than the SS bottle though. I don't think the SS darter would swim at all with 6x. I can't seem to make them swim right of the package.
Seems like VMC hooks have gone to chit. Almost everyone I know has lost nice fish to straightened hooks this year.
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10-12-2013, 09:29 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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VMC 3/0 6X front and back with split rings. I have messed around with many different arrangements over the years and have finally settled on this set-up. Landed fish to the high 40-pound class on this configuration without any problems this year.
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"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
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10-12-2013, 09:41 AM
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i have a good friend who swears by 5/0 with splits front and back and has multiple 40's, 5 50's and a 60...just a thought
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10-12-2013, 09:56 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jon2465
i have a good friend who swears by 5/0 with splits front and back and has multiple 40's, 5 50's and a 60...just a thought
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He has that score on the darter, or just in general? |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
ASMFC Striped Bass Advisory Panel - Connecticut
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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10-12-2013, 10:06 AM
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He would be the super strike poster boy...
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10-12-2013, 10:18 AM
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Chris Blouin
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Warren, RI
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6x 3/0 on front with a split ring and 4x 3/0 on the rear with a split ring and crushed barbs
Is how mine are rigged
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10-12-2013, 11:21 AM
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Formerly the_shocker
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thanks. i may get some of the 3/0 6x VMC's and give it a go.
anyone use that set up on the northbar bottle darters too?
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10-12-2013, 11:46 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
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4x VMCs are nowhere near as good as they used to be. Use 6x.
As far as 4/0 or 5/0, my opinion is that it won't make a difference with darters. Darters don't have a lot of swimming action. What you want a darter to do is dig and sweep side to side, and not ride up in the current. Heavier hooks might actually help. That being said, my darters have 4/0 6x trebles on the belly, and a tinned (not stainless) single on the back. Mustad stainless hooks have become extremely brittle. I hardly ever hook a bass on the tail hook anyway with darters.
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10-12-2013, 01:09 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by american spirit
thanks. i may get some of the 3/0 6x VMC's and give it a go.
anyone use that set up on the northbar bottle darters too?
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SS. Same as T~
NB.
4/0 6x front and 3/0 6x rear. Never an issue. Load those NB's too. Once I fished my factory loaded NB I loaded them all.
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10-13-2013, 02:40 AM
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Registered User
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
He has that score on the darter, or just in general?
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all but 2 of the 50,60's i believe point is it's the darter hook set up works with many different configurations |
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10-13-2013, 02:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Originally Posted by ivanputski
He would be the super strike poster boy...
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as a matter of fact he is lol |
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10-13-2013, 06:20 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Loading your NB's?? Same idea as loading redfins??
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10-13-2013, 06:56 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgie
Loading your NB's?? Same idea as loading redfins??
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Yes. Bump them up to 3 ounces and drop a set of 4/0 hooks on her. Much better plug in my opinion. |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
ASMFC Striped Bass Advisory Panel - Connecticut
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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10-13-2013, 07:52 AM
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Registered User
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Thanks Toby. Do you go with water or lead??
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10-13-2013, 08:18 AM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgie
Thanks Toby. Do you go with water or lead??
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Water is fine. The very limited few factory loaded ones were loaded with mineral oil.
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10-13-2013, 08:25 AM
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All up in the Interweb!
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I load all my plugs with mineral oil. I find it doesn't evaporate and when fishing late into the fall there is no chance of it freezing and breaking the plug from the inside out. I have had that happen when I used to use water.  |
Co-Host of The Surfcast Podcast
ASMFC Striped Bass Advisory Panel - Connecticut
"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
Certified rock hopping billy goat.
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10-15-2013, 07:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tlapinski
VMC 3/0 6X front and back with split rings. I have messed around with many different arrangements over the years and have finally settled on this set-up. Landed fish to the high 40-pound class on this configuration without any problems this year.
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Toby - which size splits are you using? triple rings?
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