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11-19-2013, 01:27 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: MASS. I miss CT
Posts: 213
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Bullets or Smiling bills jigs
What does everyone prefer? I prefer bullets with a solid hook and lots of hair in all conditions. What about you?
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11-19-2013, 03:03 PM
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#2
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Cumberland,RI
Posts: 8,555
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Ball jigs with tails , smiling bills with bucktail. Ball jigs get stuck less and smiling Bills wiggle a little.
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Saltheart
Custom Crafted Rods by Saltheart
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11-19-2013, 03:46 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
Posts: 2,574
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For most surf use I like the bullet style with lots of hair... except when sandeels are the primary forage - then sparsly tied so the profile is thinner. The strong hooks on your heads are excellent.
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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11-19-2013, 04:12 PM
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All up in the Interweb!
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: In the dog house.
Posts: 5,205
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I used to be all about smilin' bill heads as somehow I got it into my mind that the "mouth" on the jig made it somehow swim.  As I really thought that through and rationalized how much water resistance was actually caused by the mouth I figured it made little if any difference and put more of the success on jigs in the hands of the fisherman coupled with the amount of hair used. From there I began to experiment with different head styles and eventually settled on bullet style heads like yours and the Andrus jetty caster as I find it to be more forgiving in the rocks.
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"Out there in the surf is where it's at, that's where the line gets drawn in the sand between those who talk fishing and those who live it."
- a wise man.
One good fish, a sharpie does not make...
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11-19-2013, 04:24 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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How about Upperman lima bean heads while we're at it?
Standup saltwater size heads?
Banana heads?
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11-19-2013, 04:34 PM
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#6
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ashland, Mass.
Posts: 596
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I switch back and forth from both, haven't really seen a difference in catching to sway me either way. But if I had to choose, it would probably be the bullet style jetty caster, for some reason I just feel like I keep better contact.
I've heard good things about your bucktails... do you have a link to check out your work, and order some if needed? Thanks.
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11-19-2013, 04:36 PM
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mid Coastal CT
Posts: 2,007
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I find myself tying on smiling bills more that any other style. Bullets (Jetty caster style) are great too and I'll use both interchangably. Ultra dense hair and a sturdy hook are a must.
Banana and minnow head (i.e. spro style) are two that I primarily tie on for fluke or sea bass. The banana is nice over snotty bottom/Oysters as they seem to pull out of the snags a bit easier that the minnow head. The minnow heads are great over sand and less grabby structure. Fluke jigs get tied sparse and short usually with a pinch of synthetic under the bucktail.
I use the Upperman/Lima bean style for blackfish jigs. But I'm really more of a traditionalist when it comes to tog rigs.
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11-24-2013, 08:23 PM
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Always a Rookie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: South Shore Long Island, NY
Posts: 475
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I have a bunch of SPRO bucktails, has anyone found them effective in catching bass from the shore or in an inlet from the rocks?
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"Your first word was "Fishing", not "Mom", not "Dad", "FISHING." - Mom
Black, White, Chartreuse/Parrot = the Holy Trinity
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11-25-2013, 07:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: A village some where
Posts: 3,436
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeal
I have a bunch of SPRO bucktails, has anyone found them effective in catching bass from the shore or in an inlet from the rocks?
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I enjoy the SPRO mostly from a boat on a drift cause of the head design and eye placement, makes the jig swim nice and level and can help save from some snags with that minnow type face.
I tried andrus jetty casters this year for the first time and i am in love...
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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11-25-2013, 07:31 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Chasing fat girls in the dark
Posts: 961
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iamskippy
I tried andrus jetty casters this year for the first time and i am in love...Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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X2. Check out Blue Frog too. I've ben trying to get RT to bring them in but haven't seen them yet.
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11-25-2013, 08:09 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joebaggs99
What does everyone prefer? I prefer bullets with a solid hook and lots of hair in all conditions. What about you?
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Your bullet head jigs are the BOMB. I killed Bass on them both in the Canal and on my boat. 
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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11-25-2013, 08:17 AM
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#12
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 10,295
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I normally get the smiling bills but they end up not smiling after about 1 hour when the smile gets wiped off their face. I agree with Toby that the amount of water displaced prob. doesn't make a difference. I did have 1 weird day last spring where I was doing well with a SB then the front got flattened and I wasn't doing as well and when I switched back to a new SB I did better. Prob. b/c of my confidence.
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11-25-2013, 08:56 PM
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bethany CT
Posts: 2,883
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I'm not sure how much it matters in practice, but the drag coefficient of a smiling bill is probably in the 2-2.3 range and the drag coefficient of a bullet jig is probably in the 0.4-0.5 range. How much wiggle that translates into would depend on a bunch of stuff, but it seems plausible that it could make a difference, particularly with pork or rubber on it. I am not convinced it makes a difference as far as relative effectiveness, but there is a difference in drag coefficient. Just maybe it was more important than Paul's confidence, but we will never know.
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